We need an archive link to this from this guy OR someone else verifying that this is true. I tried to find it, but couldn’t. I’ll give everyone a half an hour.
Edit: Thanks for everyone doing so much research. The crazy thing is, when you go to @DavidShuster, the comment doesn’t show up at all and it looks the account hasn’t been active for a year or so. But then RedJard linked and archived the original. LillyPip confirmed that it is his account.
I now spent close to an hour trying to figure out Robinson’s political leanings, and as of right now the internet simply does not know.
This is the closest:
A public records database shows Robinson’s family resides in Washington, Utah, where Trump garnered support from 75% of voters in the 2024 presidential election. Robinson’s parents have Republican listed as their party affiliation, said public voter registration information, and they are considered active voters (each cast ballots in the 2024 election that gave Trump a second presidency).
Public records also indicated Robinson registered as a voter in Utah in July 2021 but was considered inactive and did not declare an affiliation to any party when he registered.
And then there’s a lot of talk about bullet engravings which leave me very confused. How can you engrave “If you’re reading this you’re gay” - 26 characters onto a single bullet? Even so, the messaging is open to interpretation. We simply do not know yet, and we might never know 100%! He’s conflicted, that much seems clear.
IMHO most timely and objective article as of right now: LA Times
edit: I wrote this 24h ago. Surely the situation has changed by now. See you in a more timely thread!
If you’re reading this you’re gay
If you’re reading this you’re gay, LMAO…
Wouldn’t the bullet that called Kirk a fascist be an indicator of a possible left position held by the shooter?
My understanding is that it’s a Helldivers 2 reference, so not necessarily.
True, but i still don’t see how it can’t be a game reference and a label applied to Kirk. I don’t see how somebody, who is right wing themselves, would use this. But it makes perfect sense if the shooter was left.
Groypers and always online fascists co-opt left language and I see them call other nazis fascists derisively. I will bet you ten thousand dollars there will be no sign the shooter was leftist in any way.
I mean, anybody can throw the word “fascism” out there and a wide variety of people purport to hate fascism so shrugs maybe but probably not.
Yeah, but quoting an antifascist song and writing “hey fascist, catch” on your bullets is one of those things that feels suggestive of the rarer lefty shooter. There was also something initially reported as pro-trans symbolism, but it didn’t sound like a trans symbol I’d seen before.
It’s a groyper thing, which also a traditionally rightist thing. Steal leftist terminology and reuse it to troll leftists and confuse everyone else.
I shall take socialism away from the Socialists.
I assume you mean proof as to the claims.
But just in case if you mean the tweet being made and made by that account, it is still up and I made an archived version of it.The account claims to be
journalist […] TYT.com Rebel HQ. Previously anchored for MSNBC + AJAM
The thing that really got me is that anyone believes the thing about the bullet casings being engraved at all. That’s the kind of detail that’s just too easy to fabricate, and I can’t believe I bought it when they said the United Healthcare killer engraved HIS bullets. There’s no way for any news source to be sure which bullets actually came from the gun; also, wouldn’t evidence like that be kept secret by the police?
I dunno maybe I’m too paranoid, I just believe literally nothing from any media outlet anymore; they’re all owned by Larry Ellison’s kid
Does it really matter?
The 30-06 casing is pretty big, and has about 2"/50mm of space before it tapers down to where the bullet is. There’s plenty of space for a short message, and you could probably engrave it with a nail. I’m guessing it would take a couple hours to engrave four bullets, which is totally feasible.
We have specific messages, and the benefit to lying about it is incredibly low, so why bother?
The benefit is really low?
Those “engravings” have been used in the last 48 hours to call for a civil war. I’m unsure what you mean with “benefits” to one side being “low” here
It means the messages aren’t specific to any one movement. It seems like wasted effort if they were going to slot him in to any category, since they’re open to interpretation as either ultra right wing memes or antifacist memelord quotes. Depending on the news source, they are being interpreted differently.
Or, maybe “they” made it intentionally occlusive to avoid a civil war. Because let’s face it, the right were calling for a violence before the casings even came out. Hell, they were calling for violence before the shooting, too.
My take is that since the public just wholesale bought the story about the UHC CEOs murderer engraving 9mm bullets, someone at WSJ (owned by Rupert/Lachlan Murdock, known Nazis and accelerationists) decided “hey let’s tell everyone these bullets had engravings too” and intentionally left the “messages” on the bullets vague enough to go either way. Once it was out there, people ran with it cause it sounded plausible.
Oh, I agree. I’m not sold on them even existing, either. But I’m debating available reported evidence.
My new personal, not totally serious, conspiracy theory is: They are real, Tyler is an edgy memelord with no affiliation, and someone at one of these organizations shoehorned the Groyper connection because they own Groyper Coin.
Is it plausible? Maybe. But we’re in a platos’ cave of media lies just trying to figure out what the shapes mean.
We have specific messages though, they were reported yesterday IIRC, after they arrested their primary suspect. It would be pretty incredible for them to completely fabricate the messages as well as have Utah’s governor believe them.
I never said they fabricated messages. Just that if they’re real, I don’t totally believe the guy’s a Groyper because of them.
No matter how holy you are there is always someone holier than thou. They should implicate Laura Loomer for encouraging this assassination since she was one of the people who said Charlie wasn’t republican enough lol.
Where are the actual sources of this information? Are there police interview transcripts available somewhere? Are there reports about a transcript from reputable sources? So far all I’ve seen is wild speculation by untrusted sources.
As of now, all I actually know about this guy is that he shot charlie kirk.
Funny how the two main shots at fascists were done by fascists. Yes, we’re obviously the dangerous party here🤡
I’m hearing the shooter had a trans girlfriend from a right wing friend of mine, but I can’t find proof, does anyone know what he’s talking about?
Some marking on the bullet got around, I think it was TRN but that’s the manufacturer of the bullet if it’s accurate. Apparently that is, I willI will say cause there’s been so much crap about this douche being killed it’s muddying any real info. Also read that the manufacturer doesn’t make bullets for that caliber (30 odd 6? For a hunting rifle, I don’t know guns well but know it’s a hunting type still) so I really dunno and I did not look into that so need to check that out if it’s important to the story. I only saw the the manufacturer didn’t make that caliber from a single comment but read many with the bullet marking and one mentioned the pic going around is a 9mm.
Don’t take my word for this Ive just been reading about the story, but it’s what I’ve gleened from them all.
It appears he was just a more extreme right wing person than even the deceased is and that provoked him into action. Seems likely from due to how easily they’re (extreme right wing) provoked in general.
Just a slight correction, it’s “thirty ought six” or “30-06” where thirty is the caliber(diameter of projectile) and ought six is the year the military adopted it. Not that that makes much difference, I’m just a nerd.
I appreciate the correction I always heard odd not ought but probably cause I heard it much, much younger heh. Grew up in a small town in Canada so was just thinking how I heard it (seriously all these years heard 30 odd 6 in my memory), maybe our accent too. Have a good one, appreciate the knowledge! Always a good day when you learn something new, doesn’t happen as often these days.
It’s actually aught, it’s a word for zero
Hey and now I get to learn something. Sorry I’m a few days late but I’m always happy to not be wrong in the future.
A very deep sigh of relief was uttered by me, but then turned into a groan of frustration, because all those right wing nutcases who were calling for the heads of all leftists are now again demanding sympathy. Fuck them.
Those who REFUSE to offer empathy, can’t reasonably expect it in return.
remember, Charlie Kirk did not believe in empathy, so fulfill his wishes and do not have any for him
This is the full quote.
No, don’t “oh that’s still bad”, you thought all the people repeating half of the quote weren’t lying to you with the specific goal of justifying murder. Classic brown shirt behavior.
His dick is definitely flaccid by now you can hop off
Sympathy is for something that happened. Empathy connects you to others and prevents the need for sympathy. That being said, where’s the full quote on “a woman’s place is under her husband’s thumb.” Or him calling for the release and exoneration of the dude who attacked Nancy pelosi’s husband?
Something something brown shirts?
Time to get un-relieved because this is fake (as discussed in other comments).
Not conservative enough? Jesus Christ, who does he want? Satan himself?
Would Satan be a conservative?
No, Nick Fuentes. Satan is way less far right
Nazism.
They want a return to Nazism.
Nick Fuentes is where the path Charlie Kirk paved leads.
Nick Fuentes is an open and proud Nazi and says so on his live streams.
Imagine the most vile, ridiculous position you can think of a right-wing nutjob could take, multiply that by all the positions neonazis take, and then make him look like Dr Mephesto’s mini-me version of 1940s Spike Jones (the comedy band leader, not the modern Spike Jonze) with the confidence and hubris of the sleaziest car salesman you’ve ever seen.
This dude is so far gone he used to stalk and harass Charlie Kirk himself for online video clout, and he bragged openly about “infecting and impregnating Turning Point USA” and “fucking it raw from the inside out” (not sure what he claimed to have done to cause that, but it’s some shit he spewed on camera).
It would come as no surprise to me that his little cult of groypers are far enough gone to have been the perpetrators here. We shall see when the details come out. I hope he makes it to trial and the sunlight hits all of this ugliness; though I fear it’s all become UV resistant at this point, and it will just stir up a bunch of “look what the left made us do just by existing!” nonsense.
I always wondered who spike Jones from up on cripple Creek was and now you’ve given me the piece to solve the puzzle.
Wtf is a groyper? Stop making up words. I can’t keep up with this shit.
They are a neonazi christian nationalist group led by Nick Fuentes, who was known to have a long-standing feud with Charlie Kirk. To give it more context, these people are so far right that they view Charlie Kirk as liberal.
This is all funny to me because Fuentes is kind of a Latino sounding name…
That’s because he is a Latino Neo Nazi
I’m just saying… Alligator Alcatraz doesn’t discriminate ideology.
Given the new supreme court ruling and the ICE ruling I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody pulled a hyundai factory on fuentes.
Nazis ain’t that bright
Also you misspelled Auschwitz
To be clear I was saying I hope the leopards will eat his face.
Is this fake? Or is it text on bullet casing fake?
Somebody had a link to a kill charlie kirk themed groyper site and I think all the bullet etched memes were there. The kids grandma said she didn’t know any democrats and republicans don’t kill each other so they must have arrested the wrong kid. He is a registered republican and donated to trump*
A classmate called him a reddit kid as of 4-5 years ago (right wingers are circulating a redacted misquote that a classmate called him a “leftist”) Like even if the kid wasn’t a groyper he was likely being egged on by groypers.
There’s also this article going into different ties:https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-suspect-is-a-gun-loving-trump-supporter/
All in all he’s at the very least alt right.
*this last one may be a name mixup
As disappointed as I am, I don’t see any concrete evidence to support the shooter is alt-right.
You are disregarding that the bullet text inscriptions are common alt-right memes? That the suspected killer is from a conservative family upbringing?
Or you don’t believe those inscriptions have nothing to do with the alt-right movements? That the conservative family is also to be disregarded?
Now about more evidence of participation of the killer in alt-right movements, or other links, you can be damn sure the current US administration is not really intereesting in making any of that public anymore, since it goes against the current administration propaganda. If it was some “leftist” you can be damn sure there would be a deep investigation into the killers electronics, internet activity, and etc, to find other “leftists” and politicians to associate with him and ALL that would be publicized by Donald Trump himself.
Are “Hey fascist, catch”, and “Bella ciao” alt-right memes? I know at least “Bella ciao” is an anarchist thing.
“Hey fascist, catch” is a phrase from a game popular among right wing gamers. The song and phrase “Bella ciao” have long been co-opted by the Groyper meme culture. See here for detailed explanations.
I’ve definitely seen some people say that nick fuentes called charlie kirk a fascist. I’m not going to sort through hours of footage on this though. Like most the alt right calls leftists fascist, this can be seen everywhere from alex jones to like all the right wing youtubers. Groypers see kirk as a leftist.
And “groyper war” (the groyper website dedicated to harassing charlie kirk) definitely had bella ciao memes.
Like I think with this shooter the memes all being from that site would be a hell if a coincidence if they’re not related.
is there a real source for this or just some twitter guy?
Some Twitter guy has multiple awards for journalism, I’m inclined to give him some benefit. But I would like someone to provide an official statement.
Citations or GTFO because we should always check for sources especially in this day and age, awards or not.
Didn’t Spencer Cox even say that he is shattered that the shooter was “one of us” (read: white male) and not an immigrant? Like on TV, not in a cocaine-fueled xitter rant post.
Edit: Found it
The investigation is ongoing, but I want to make it crystal clear right now to whoever did this. We will find you. We will try you and we will hold you accountable to the furthest extent of the law. And I just want to remind people that we still have the death penalty here in the state of Utah.
We can return violence with violence, we can return hate with hate. And that’s the problem with political violence, is it metastasizes. Because we can always point the finger at the other side. And at some point, we have to find an off ramp, or it’s going to get much much worse.
Incredible the difference a day can make.
Source? Who said the second thing?
Governor Cox of Utah. his big schtick is lecturing people about reaching across the aisle for civility while still being abrasive and maga half the time
