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I laughed at Microsoft a lot when they basically made Windows 10 beg people to try edge.
You tried to change your default and it was like, this isn’t recommended! And you’re like, idgaf change the default, and Windows is like, are you sure? Yes! But edge can save battery power. Are you really sure?
Fuck off edge. Change the default.
Are you sure?
I work IT support. I’ve seen the dialog about 1000 times.
It’s crazy how many people prefer a browser that’s not edge.
They seem to have removed it in Windows 11, and even might have disabled it in later versions of 10. Idk, everything I’m dealing with now in terms of new setups are Windows 11.
But are you really sure?
You convinced me, it definitely didn’t happen. I was hallucinating again.
Microsoft Edge encountered an error: Microsoft Edge is not the default browser. We reset your default browser to Microsoft Edge to resolve the problem
There is no end on Microsoft nagging:
- Trying to install Firefox.
- Windows: Why would you need another browser? You already have a browser. Use Microsoft Edge.
That’s why i completely nuked Edge when i was still on windows 11. Including WebView. I simply did not give a fuck if anything used edge.
When i installed (fedora) linux for the first time, i was like:
wait… this really does only what i tell it to! holy shit!
And i never looked back. (And i distrohopped over time. I am currently using arch, and testing NixOS in a VM via virt-manager. If i find it to be good enough, i’ll copy the config and install on my host, alongside arch. And slowly, i’ll nixify my pc.)
Nix made me love my computer. I have everything I want and if anything goes wrong I just rollback. After a taste it’s the only OS that feels right
nix>>>
although have you considered gentoo?
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and NO.
My laptop already suffers enough when compiling stuff through the AUR, i won’t even try it.
Aww, I found you. My green twat tag buddy! See, it works great. Hope you have an excellent day!
oh yeah i made that one comment - what was the original comment i was replying to again? i can’t remember and the post seems to have been deleted. (also do i actually have that tag or are you kidding? i can’t see it)
The post was about mod abuse, I think, and I mentioned my process for tagging annoying users and adding arbitrary downvotes to them in the Voyager app! You wanted the same tag, but I didn’t want it to get confused with the same tag for frustrating users, so I colored it green instead of red!
ahaha i remember now, thanks - i wish the tag were universal though :D
I did the same thing until I switched to Geruda Linux a few weeks ago. Neat arch based distro that is optimized for gaming. When I bought a laptop I explicitly chose the DIY Framework laptop so I didn’t have to purchase Windows and have been running Fedora on that for years without issues.
I’ve been using Firefox for over a decade, and Windows has never complained about it. What are you talking about?
I think this started with Windows 10, don’t know which version though. A couple examples from the net:
Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.
I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack to disable ads/AI/bloat and restore removed Start menu functionality (like vertical taskbars). Also, always build the ISO in Rufus so you have the option to disable the Microsoft account requirement.
Alternatively you could* switch to Linux.
Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.
I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack…
Me: Why go through all that trouble, just install Linux
Alternatively you would switch to Linux.
Welp
Damn it, could*
I just finished migrating our last windows holdout in my house. Honestly very painless and while everyone is different we haven’t had any regrets. Eol for Windows 10 was a fantastic bogeyman.
What distribution did you migrate to? (Not trying to start a fight, I’d just like to switch myself)
oh jeez lol I’ve never had a Linux fight. I picked kde neon because I love the ui and neon is bleeding edge for plasma updates. being based on Ubuntu which I was already familiar with sealed the deal. it’s very comfortable for Windows users out of the box,and can be customised further into a visual clone of Windows 10/11. I’ve had a great time gaming on it, very little set up for amd.
Thanks mate, I appreciate all the info
Glad I could help, if you’re looking to try it out and have a spare usb lying around you can try a live version. That loads the OS into ram and allows you to try out the os. most(maybe all) linux distros have one. Fair warning it will be noticeably faster than everything due to running off ram. if you like it enough you can install it alongside Windows, then if you’re completely sold you can use the live disk again to expand the Linux partition over Windows.
Here is the neon download page. It has instructions for making a live usb.
ps. i may have also undersold kde, they also have a whole suite of neat applications they’ve made for their os
Finally managed to get my dad to switch his laptop
nice, my wife was super hesitant. I had to remind her she only uses libreoffice and firefox anyway hahaha
To be fair
I didn’t notice that either
Or, if you must stay on Windows, you could switch to Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC, which is Windows 11 without the shitware and with ten years of guaranteed updates. The Mass Grave has the details.
They say that Stockholm syndrome is fake because of bad data. Windows is the proof that it’s true.
There is a possible version of windows that is good and that people want. It’s a just a shame that Microsoft isn’t interested it making it.
As someone who grew up on windows, I’m willing to stay with it for as long as I can make it like that version. I don’t want Mac, and Linux doesn’t support enough (still, but maybe one day)
For those contemplating a shift to Linux, this site lets you kick the tires on different distros.
Or you can simply use Linux Mint or Zorin OS if you really can’t stand with a new UI
In EU you can uninstall Edge completely.
My Linux firefotz browser never gives this error.
Microsoft needs to hire a psychologist or something. Their senseless nagging on forcing shit down our throats doesn’t psychologically work the way they think it does.
Except it does work. Its easy to forget that most users dont really know or care that much about their browser or care what their laptop is doing.
They just click things until something with search bar comes up.
The tech savy people are not their biggest customer group so they can risk annoying some people as long as they know they are getting more people in to their enviroment than they are loosing their users.
I hate that Windows is like this
It would be better if people didn’t need to worry about switching.
“oopsie reawwy sowwy uwu”
So, as with many other people. this stuff is certainly pushing me into Linux.
That said, is there no chance of the EU restarting their probes towards them with all the dark patterns they’ve been using to push people into Edge?
My day job is to fight ONE aspect of shady MS stuff. I don’t have time or money at home to fight ALL of MS’s shady shit at home.
I mean, if the alternative is vanilla Chrome, it hardly matters at this point. They’re both so loaded with tracking your computer will dent the floor, and they have basically the same capabilities.
Obviously FF is better, but what I’m saying is, statistically, for the vast majority, this is only pulling folks off of Chrome.
The worst part is, firefox isn’t better any more, it’s a bloated mess. I was a firefox user for over a decade and finally ditched it last week.
Why though?
I mean the only reason I could think of is that the number of sites which do not support Firefox increases. So I always need Chrome to get some websites working.
What did Firefox that Vivaldi does better?
I find that Chromium derivates do perform much better as long as a Wayland+Nvidia combo isn’t freaking them out.
It’s usually not a huge deal on fast desktops though.
What did Firefox that Vivaldi does better?
So far:
- No AI slop
- Lower CPU usage
- Broader set of extensions (old Chrome + Chrome V3 both supported)
- Nicer interface with actually configurable sidebar
- Configurable keybinds for everything
- Mouse gestures
But as I say, I’ve only been trying it for a few days, and there are several others I want to try before I settle on a permanent replacement.
Ok I get your point, but basically a Firefox alternative like libre wolf would work for you too
What are you using now
I’d recommend Cromite. For desktop and Android, it’s awesome.
DDG browser if you want multi device sync.
I haven’t settled yet, but I’m trying Vivaldi at the moment and liking it so far.
Maybe try LibreWolf, it’s just Firefox with the Mozilla bullshit removed and privacy respecting defaults. It’s identical besides that
Because of the anti fingerprinting changes so many sites don’t work in it though, mapping utilities in particular, and banks.
Yeah, unfortunately LibreWolf’s a bit weird for me in ways I can’t live with.
Also its onboarding process really needs work, the first time I used it I lost all my logins because I wasn’t fully aware LibreWolf doesn’t save any cookies by default, which kinda coloured my experience with it.
I find Librewolf to be a bit annoying as well. You can disable that cookie-deleting behavior, but I was annoyed that when I signed in with my Firefox account that it had deleted my history and synced that deletion, so now my history was gone everywhere.
Zen is my current favorite Firefox derivative. Whether you like it or not will depend on if you like their UI choices. I actually wasn’t a tabs-on-the-side guy, but after using it for a day or so I’ve come to like it a lot.
Waterfox was nice too, but it was a bit unstable last time I used it.
I mean it goes back and forth so much. I remember when Firefox was the king of browsers 15 years maybe 18 years ago. It then got so loaded with shit that Chrome was the only way to go for about 10 years or so now at this point I think it’s pretty much a wash between the two. If nothing else you can use a lighter browser. I personally prefer Chrome because then I can use it on my phone my tablet my computer and have access to all of my tabs as access to all of my searches everything between the three devices.
because then I can use it on my phone my tablet my computer and have access to all of my tabs as access to all of my searches everything between the three devices.
You can do that with Firefox. If you use Android you can also run uBlock in the mobile version of Firefox, which is why I’ll never use Chrome again.
What I meant is there are tons of alternatives to Google-branded Chrome, that are basically Chrome underneath but at least stripped out. Including ones with browser sync across devices.
I am using DuckDuckGo for mobile/desktop sync at the moment. But mostly Cromite (or Firefox) on desktop, and only because Cromite sadly isnt available on iOS.
It’s not a wash anymore though, it’s not even close. Plain Chrome tracks you so much it definitely eats CPU doing so, no matter how many extensions you install.
I mean I’ve started utilizing duck duck go for most of my searches on my phone about five six months ago or so. But that has been limited in a number of things in a professional sense where I have had to switch over to Google to be able to actually find the correct answers that I need.
Their browser, I mean.
You can still use Google search in DDG browser. TBH I feel much safer with that than the other way around.
Unfortunately, I feel this way too. It is easier and more productive for me atm. I would like to get away from Google but it works seamlessly with everything I use.
I remember my Firefox browser got hijacked so badly, that I had to never install it again on one of my computers, because it would pick up the extension I guess that was left behind in app data or something? Anyway, I was afraid to touch it, long after it was cleared.
Remember those horrible toolbars? Those were a problem on all browsers and reinstalled themselves automatically unless you fully purged them from your pc. I don’t think Chrome ever supported toolbars, that was actually a feature back then
That app was your other browser. And the problem was that it made itself your default browser. But no worries. We fixed that right up for you.
The “app” is called Windows. :)
miss those vague error messages, not.
If you use Solid works at work you’ll be welcome with More retarded ones like:
Error occurred.
An item in your assembly needs to be saved X 1000 consecutive windows saying the same thing even if you hit cancel or don’t show again.Solid works is phaking regarde…retarded.
