For those of you who aren’t woke yet, I just made a fresh pot of coffee.
Hmmm, fresh pot ! Thanks, I’ll have two ounces
Use metric units! Damn gun monkey!
Uuh, Yea, uhm -two, uuhhh… two metric kilograms of european cannabis, please.
An ounce is approximately 28 grams, so you’d probably want more like 56g of wacky tobaccy.
“You” is also ungendered. There seems to be a common idea that English is missing a second person plural. We have one, it’s “you”. We just stopped using the second person singular. That’s what all those variations of “thee, thou, thy” etc were.
“Y’all” would be a superpluralization. If that’s still not enough we also have the ultraplural form of, “all y’all”
Y’all is exclusive. All y’all is inclusive.
If I walk into a party in a house and a group of my friends are there and I say ‘what are y’all doing here?’, I’m only talking to my friends.
If I walk into my own house and there’s a party there and I say ‘what are all y’all doing here?’ I’m addressing everyone of the hoodlums in my house.
Edit: To the person who down voted yet contributed nothing to the convo, please feel obliged to read up on clusivity in linguistics.
We’re very inclusive in Australia also.
‘G’day you bunch of cunts’ means hello to everyone male, female, known and unknown.
We’re very polite over here.
How very nice of all you cunts over there
All Y’all cunts, we just talked about this.
Whoops. Thanks y’all
Getting pressed enough about a single downvote to make an edit is cringe.
Saying that things other people do are cringe is cringe.
Yeah. We mostly think of grammatical number as a simple choice of singular vs plural but that’s not what we do in real life.
We generally have multiple labels that describe the concept of progressively expanding circles of what’s included when we think of ourselves.
There’s the very narrow sense of I/me/myself. We have various expansions around us/all’y’all. Jamaicans have the phrase “I and I” which focuses on the individual but explicitly calls out the connection with others.
So then “All y’alls” (not all y’all’s) would be ultrasuperpluralization?
Sounds right.
Presumably “y’all’s” would be the second person superplural possessive.
All y’all’s “all y’all” for all and for y’all
In New England (the best England), we have “youse”.
We also have “Ya’” where we elide the entire ending and you need to determine plural vs singular from context. For example, “Ya’ can’t get thea, les’ ya been there befoa.”
Texas does not have a monopoly on y’all. Y’all is collective, both as a noun, and as ownership. Y’all is Southern for Comrade.
Comrade
W’all
And poetry isn’t always literal.
The onlie trans community uses y’all a lot. And howdy and haiii :3
And folks/folx!
Because they demonized every other greeting as inherently evil and now they’re only left with weird, archaic English phrases.
Removed by mod
Trans people are normal too.
But are texans ?
sorry, by normal I meant people from non-LGBT groups 😭
I know. No Miku fan shall suffer injustice of misunderstanding!
I refuse to accept Texas’ claim on y’all. Its a word collectively owned by everyone south of the mason-dixon line and I will fight to the death over this.
Signed, floridaman
…Am I not allowed to use “y’all”, north of the 49th parallel? Do we have to bring back “thou” so “you” can be plural again? Or is this part of the Quebecois plot to force everyone to parler en français donc nous pouvons utiliser “vous”? C’est bien, anyway, j’suppose.
Fun fact:
“Thou” and “you” were the same word.
The “th” sound used to have its own character in written English called the thorn. When typefaces came along, it was excluded and sometimes replaced with a “y.”
Also why “Ye” and “The” are the same.
Shit, if ungendered pronouns make it woke, then I should ditch my native language.
English is the wokest language. In Spanish, all nouns are gendered. That means when Trump wanted to build a wall, he was actually being woke AF.
I am a Yankee from a state with a Canadian border.
I started saying y’all because it’s ungendered!
People should leave “y’all” alone. It doesn’t belong to anyone. It is a natural contraction of “you” and “all” that several cultures have independently produced as part of their vernacular.
That’s why conservatives have started to say yim’all and yer’all in order needlessly gender the expression. Can’t believe these folks sometimes.
Edit: 😂
You lot? I use you lot in place of y’all, because I can’t bring myself to contract you and all together.
That sounds rude, though. Like “you people”.
Right?? I kept asking friends and family if that’s too rude, and they assured me that it wasn’t, so I kept using it. I guess it might be on tone of voice, too.
It’s not rude. I say youse.
I think that’s a British way of saying it, if I’m not mistaken
We have quite a few actually, “you lot”, “yous”, “cunts” etc.
Y’all was created to serve a completely artificial problem.
English has second person singular pronouns, but for some dumbfuck reason we’ve deprecated them. It’s still maintained in the standard for compatibility with legacy literature but not recommended for new works. If thou talk’st this way, thy speech comes off as archaic/shakesperian/biblical. So we use the second person plural for everything. But this removes the ability to encode context on how many thou art addressing. “You! Go put that fire out.” Are you talking to an individual in a group or the whole group?
So the American south turned “you” into the singular form and invented “you all” contracted to “y’all” for the plural form.
Now we just need to fix the first person plural problem, ie “We’ve just won the lottery!” Does “we” include the listener, or not? English doesn’t encode that information; “we” don’t have different words for “myself the speaker and the listener(s) and perhaps others” and “Myself the speaker, others, but not the listener.”
M’y’all and m’y’ain’t
Ah, compound contractions. Yeah that’ll work. We’ve already got y’all’ve and y’all’d’a.
Can’t forget about y’all’dnt’ve.
y’all’dn’t’ve forgotten an apostrophe if y’all’d de-contractify it: “you all would not have”
What state is this?
North Carolina
Also known as the best Carolina or at least the less awful one. Seriously though, fuck South Carolina.
I went to South Carolina once. For the eclipse a few years ago.
We flew into Charlotte, stayed there for a night, then Greenville SC for a night (to be in totality), and back to Charlotte for a couple of days.
Crossing the border from NC to SC was less like crossing state lines and more like crossing the DMZ or the Berlin Wall. Just…a totally different word on the other side of that line.
Best part was that I got to try out cheer wine. Also there was a guy in front of me at the concession stand (we saw the eclipse from the Greenville Zoo) on the phone with someone. He was trying to tell that person he was in the “food line” but the other person kept hearing “Food Lion”, the name of a local grocery chain.
Although a couple of different guys saw me sweating my ass off in the zoo and offered me a “cool rag”. I had no idea what that was and it sounded disgusting so I politely declined…but in retrospect I have to appreciate their hospitality.
Next eclipse, I’m going to Austin.
North Carolina once outlawed State officials mentioning or acknowledging climate change exists, to the detriment of their own coastal cities. We could also discuss bathrooms if you want. I think NC ought not be pointing fingers about who is better.
North Carolina is only the way it is because of ridiculous gerrymandering so perhaps we shouldn’t be negative and discouraging of people who want it to be better
Being against wokeness is another word for being racist basically.
I started using y’all years ago due to its ungenderedness, in part from being in queer spaces. Walking into a room of trans women and enbies and saying “you guys” felt weird.
Being enby, you guys feels weird when I’m included in it.
I don’t think conservatism is about being rational it’s about maintaining tradition or maybe morality, however it was defined by the previous generation.
Conservatism is about making it illegal for the rest of the world to exist in a manner other than the one that you personally want it to.
I feel like you don’t actually know that and it’s just your opinion.
Conservatism is about absolute control by any means necessary
