Fellas! Stay off the bicycles and motorcycles!
Meh the data is presented in a not only useless but misleading way.
Not seeing anything inherently wrong with the data viz (obviously not talking about the veracity of the data itself or its geographic/linguistic scope as that’s another matter).
Would you elaborate what you mean?
if you are going to bring up comparisons based on sex, you pollute the data including things that ONLY can possibly effect one sex. what good is it to compare how much post pregnancy care effects women vs men? or to have half the comparisons divvy all the different ways you can classify a motor cycle accident, where there is the same outcome for all of them.
I assume it is based on data of people being admitted to hospitals, as titled. So my guess is this is more about how the medical system breaks the data down, and they selected for the highest disparities of reported sex.
Shoot from the hip with no explanation…
Looks like women are too busy with all that sex stuff to get out on their motorbikes.
At least the horsegirl population vastly outnumbers the horseboys…
What is a hog but a horse with more horsepower?
The men who aren’t getting involved in motorcycle accidents are getting them pregnant. It’s just natural selection.
This information will surely only be used to inform rational and socially progressive ideas about gender
This is embarrassing to men. You’re suppose to walk off those sorts of injuries.
Indeed, I walked off my incidental pregnancy.
And try harder to get pregnant!
Huh.
Horse girls are a bigger part of the horse riding population than I thought
Maybe they are just a lot worse at it.
In the lord of the rings a lot of the extras on horses are women with fake beards because of this
My girlfriend’s sister has a horse and I refuse to go near it. It’s a two ton object being operated by a pea of a brain, he once got into a panic because his friend was behind him and he couldn’t see him, so he ran around the field madly until he collided with a stationary tree. Oh and he’s scared of blue wheelbarrows, just blue ones, wheelbarrows of any other colour or apparently acceptable.
He has already stood on her foot once.
two ton
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Sorry, that was an arrogant way of phrasing it.
What the hell kind of breed is two tons? The heaviest ones I know get up to about one ton, but those are big, heavy working horses, not the average riding horse.Most horses won’t be even a single ton. There are a few breeds of working horses that do get up to a ton, but most regular riding horses are a half ton, on average.
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Our icelandic horse has also stood on my foot once, but she’s only about 300kg (600lbs) and didn’t put much of it on that foot before I shooed her off.
Also, she’s super calm about damn near everything.
First encounter with a motorised shear? Eyes wide open for a few seconds, then she’s already out of fucks to give.
Shenanigans trying to craft a costume for her result in a piece of cloth suddenly covering her eyes? Eh, my humans will know what they’re doing. Actually, can I eat that? Nope, apparently not. Lame.The worst she’ll do when something actually does scare her is stand up straight, refuse to move closer and rarely attempt to put a little more distance. She might unexpectedly sidestep a weird object on the roadside, but not so rapidly as to dismount my wife, and she’s never run away in a panic that I know of.
And if you scratch her right, she basically melts. Scratch her ears, she’ll relax her lower lip like she’s losing control of her face muscles. Scratch her butt, she’ll lean into it. Back away, she’ll follow. It’s the only case I’ve ever seen of a horse happily walking backwards.
Just by asking what breed such a horse could possibly be, you’ve exemplified more horse related knowledge than most people possess. Two tons is pretty obviously a guess by someone that doesn’t know a lot about horses or other animals of similar size.
Not much different to how most people would be wrong when estimating the weight of a building, the volume of the ocean, or the quantity of trees on the planet. If it’s something unfamiliar to you, you can’t be expected to be accurate.
You know what, you’re right. I didn’t consider the perspective of people less familiar with the topic. I don’t consider myself particularly knowledgeable, but that doesn’t mean my knowledge is fundamental or ubiquitous.
Maybe they include elephants in the “horse” category?
Horses are fucking creepy.
Right? They walk around on single fingers and are born with weird tentacles over their hooves
If you try to draw a horse based only on its skeleton you would come up with some cthulhu monster.
agents acting on muscles and breathing? 🤔
Drug effects. Prescription or recreational
So more men do drugs but women OD way more?
Well it’s side effects. So a lot of people don’t know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it’s actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
wondering why that would be a primarily “female reason” for admission, then - wouldn’t drugs that impact breathing or muscles be administered or accessible to men as well?
Someone else suggested date rape drugs, that seems like a possibility - but is it typical for date rape drugged victims to end up in the hospital such that “agents acting on muscles and breathing” becomes the reason for admission? Just doesn’t make sense, tbh
Well it’s probably side effects from prescription drugs. So a lot of people don’t know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it’s actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
To be fair, white males are the default of humanity…
/s (damn humanity and their conceited blindspots!!)
It was just a massage I didn’t mean to hurt them!
Allergic reaction to substances (agents) causing paralysis, asphyxiation, shock, etc
why would this be a “female” reason to be admitted to the hospital?
Someone above explained it better, but women are more likely to have unwanted and even dangerous side effects from medications because most meds were only ever properly tested on white men.
The men just rub a little dirt in their lungs
Because guys are too fucking dumb to go to the hospital for something like not being able to breathe. I’m sure the statistic couldn’t breathe, tried to walk it off, regained consciousness the next morning in a ditch next to road, just went home, is probably just as full of guys as the other statistic was full of girls.
Mental note: stop brandishing scimitar while motorcycling.
The women have an unfair advantage. They get classes on the subject.
My refusal to step onto scaffolding has been affirmed by this data.
Look sometimes you’ve got to take some risks to follow the lead of Jaghatai Khan
Why ride in a tank and fight at a distance if you could wear a tank and ride a motorbike at breakneck speed to close into melee range? For the Khan and the Emperor!
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Wow, motorcycles are dangerous, damn.
Yeah. That and pregnancy. Don’t even get me started on riding a motorcycle while pregnant. Might as well just ride that bike down to the morgue.
Okay but what if I turned a coffin into a motorcycle? Does the bad luck even out or am I just taunting Death?
You can also let it automatically latch shut and call a delivery service to a pre-dug-out hole, on detecting a crash.
I don’t know, but it would look pretty badass
less the bicycles, unless I read the numbers incorrectly because I couldn’t be bothered to spend longer
I feel like what’s missing is the magnitude of each of these versus the others
Yes. It’s shown on the right, and ought to have bee sorted by that.
Also, notice the bottom text, that it excludes all cases where neither gender is more than 80%, so only extreme differences are shown.
It’s carefully chosen to show some point, which might be interesting in some context, but not really interesting by itself without context.
This is a goofy graph. We have all these admissions of 100% female due to being female. Where’s the “had penis caught in chinese finger puzzle” admissions?
That’s solved by the medics on scene. You’d be surprised at just how effective my medical shears are and what they can cut…
Probably less than 1000 cases
For now. I’ll see if I can fix that this weekend. Do you think multiple visits by the same person for the same issue count as one or multiple?
I don’t know how their dataset is filtered, but I suspect it should count as multiple.
If they rerun the analysis next year and I see the figure pop up, I’ll know whose sacrifice to honour.
Imagine if pregnancy stuff had 1% blue.
On the one hand, all the pregnancy-related items are of course very important – but they’re not particularly illuminating on a list like this. If there was a “Testicular Torsion” item marked as 100% male, that wouldn’t really tell me much here either.
Yeah this is a super pointless list because it’s obvious they cherry picked data points to make the graph look dramatic.
I imagine pregnancy-related admissions weren’t excluded because they eclipse everything else in magnitude. Surely if 1.6 million British males had been admitted for testicular torsion, you would find that illuminating.
That does appear to be the case. Almost all of the pregnancy visits aren’t done in hospital. They are clinic visits and clinical post hospital appointments. And almost all of the male admissions are trauma admissions through the ER.
And to be honest, men do have a higher rate of trauma admissions than women. While women are a bit more often admitted for medical issues. But, often have medical issues they also see a doctor for.
I disagree. It does show the contrast of what most women deal with when compared directly to the male category. And while pregnancy is specific to female (at birth), it is culturally significant because it is so prevalent.
It doesn’t compare directly to the male category because there is no male category listed.
Quite a bit of interesting information on display to be sure, but with 20% of the chart displaying information that excludes one of the two things being compared, it’s not a good representation of what the title suggests.
On a chart showing male female disparity for types of cancer, ovarian and testicular would be just as irrelevant as the bottom fifth of this admissions chart.
Yes of course, that’s why I said it was important. But this table is about gender disparities in specific reasons for admittance. If the ratio can’t possibly be anything but 100%, what does that tell me about anything other than the self-evidently obvious?
You might as well tell me water is wet or the sky blue. Very true and both those facts are important, but neither is exactly new or surprising information.
The chart does include total admissions for each. Category, so you can compare the numbers across categories, I guess.
I suppose it tells you that there is no male equivalent. I do think it’s interesting that there are so many fewer types of admission skewed toward women that fit the criteria of being skewed by 80% or more, especially when you consider the prominence of pregnancy related types.
I do also think it would be more interesting to see something like the top 15 admission types for men and top 15 for women without the 80% threshold requirement to get a wider spread of women-skewed admissions.
I guess it depends on what the chart is made to convey
If there was a “Testicular Torsion” item marked as 100% male, that wouldn’t really tell me much here either.
Uh oh
Yes, yes. Entirely legitimate issues about gender identity aside, I think we all know my point here is strictly about biology.
This is why I hate this whole issue. For decades we use male and man and female and woman interchangeably. But now theres all sorts of people just waiting to pounce with “Well, actually…”. And then, if you do say male, its fine. But if you say female, you get “Oh, look. Another incel saying female!!”.
Seems like its not about communicating effectively, and more about just shitting all over things people say for worthless internet points. We all know what you meant. And it was a good point. But here we are, side stepping into this mess instead of staying focused on your point. Its all just so silly.
lol I have you tagged as “gets it” and you keep living up to that.
… there is a difference between man and male?
Oh, you sweet summer child.
I mean, I know the difference between sex and gender in the English language but didn’t know this also relates to male and man (if this is what it is about as the downvotes suggest)
Genuinely, I don’t know the difference between man/male. I do, however, know that assuming anything regarding gender identity will be incorrect. Shit changes every few weeks. Ive been working a lot of overtime, haven’t had the chance to stay up to date on it all.
God forbid someone who doesn’t natively speak English doesn’t know the nuance between these words that are often not used “properly”
We’ve got to improve those male pregnancy exam numbers, women are winning!
the gays are trying their hardest and will keep trying to impregnate their partners but the government keeps tying to stop them for some reason.
Because pregnant men would be pretty OP.
Brand new sentence.
Who are the 1.7% of males needing OB/GYN?
The full title of that entry is actually “Obstetric and gynaecological devices associated with adverse incidents”, so maybe some of the men are actually the OB/GYN themselves that are getting injured in the course of their work? The raw number is only 19 cases, so I could see that being plausible
Alternatively, with so few cases, could it be intersex people who are still categorised as male under whatever criteria this is using? 1.7% seems a touch high for that, but maybe things go wrong more often for said intersex people
Edit: wait, 90 of the cases are 0-year-olds. I’m definitely going with injuries to babies during difficult births / C-sections / similar
Trans men? But there aren’t that many I think.
Since the pregnancy is at 100%, I believe it’s afab vs amab
Maybe a trans woman who was AMAB but had bottom surgery?
Wouldn’t be capable of pregnancy but might need a gynecologist?
This is all my guess - I don’t know much about these topics.
you usually see a gynecologist for pap smears once a year, but there might be one willing to do prostate exams for post-op trans women … usually trans affirming gynecologists are for pro-op trans men
maybe post-op trans women would see a gynecologist, just not sure what for
edit: looking it up, a gynecologist is recommended for post-op trans women, looks like a gynecologist can even function as a primary care doctor!
Common reasons to go include treating granulation, checking for yeast infections and STIs, and performing pelvic exams which might catch potential cancers.
I thought there’d be more “remove foreign object from up bum”.
I suspect all baseball and tennis players ended up in the “struck by sports equipment”
I wonder if porn models that get stuff stuck fall into the “work-risk factors”
That might be unisex.
The full data set (easily found on leobenedictus.substack.com) includes “Foreign body entering into or through eye or natural orifice”. It’s pretty evenly split, only leaning towards men by a few percentage points
Are those “prophylactic surgery”?
