I guess the idea behind a “measles party” is to introduce the virus to the child’s immune system so that they can develop antibodies for it?
Damn, if only there was a safer way. Like if a doctor could introduce a very small amount of the virus to the child’s immune system. Do you think a dead virus would be enough for the immune system to learn what it is and how to fight it? Why aren’t scientists working on this?!
Just a small akshually : Viruses cant be dead or alive because the have no metabolism anyway so most (modern) vaccines work by extracting their mrna or the lipids on their surface and injecting that. Injecting a small portion of whole viruses my still infect you. Fyi
Edit: ok I talked some garbage here: while viruses do not have a metabolism and thereby are, by the definition of some, not alive, there is apparently a way to make vaccines by destroying the genome of the virus via heat or chemicals and using the “shells” to make vaccines…
Source (disclosure: website owned by vaccine producer) here
mRNA vaccines are, of course, just the absolute tits - but they’re a tiny proportion of modern vaccines and the very first ones are one a few years old, created to treat COVID. But yeah, 100%, we don’t use the virus in the vaccine! Even the first ever vaccine was (as you will know) not created from the disease it was meant to treat, but from one similar enough that it gave protection to the other. And smallpox doesn’t exist any more so, well, that worked out pretty well didn’t it. You don’t give someone the virus to stop them getting that virus, but you might well give them a virus, in an attenuated form of the target
What’s hilarious to me is that this was totally a Thing when I was younger.
Not for measels, because we weren’t braindead dumbfucks, but for chickenpox.
You’d have whole groups of kids get together to have everyone get sick at once, instead of one kid at a time for months and months as it spreads through classes at school.
IDK if it made sense, but it was legit a thing that people were doing.
Of course, there’s a vaccine now, so if you’re still doing this you’re one of the aformentioned braindead dumbfucks.
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This is child abuse.
Pro life starts at conception, pro life ends at birth
Carlin said it best:
“If your prelife, you’re fine. If you’re preschool, you’re fucked!”
And:
“Conservatives like live babies because they grow up to be dead soldiers.”
Republicans are right into that
No offense but fuck Texas
Texas is banning Gender Affirming Care FOR ADULTS, so yeah fuck Texas
When I was growing up in India I believed that I was surrounded by the dumbest and most ignorant people on earth, then I moved to the US for a while and was surprised most people remembered to breathe.
The unvax’d population in India is greater than the population of the United States. Unfortunately, only 90% of the US is vax’d against measles, which is a staggering number in and of itself, but I’m not sure of the demographic breakdown of it.
Yeah but the unvaxxed population in India are literally living in shacks with dirt floors and can barely read but the unvaxxed population in the US choose this because of facebook posts
Woah, it really is the 1980s again. Time to get some cocaine I guess.
Ya know when Conservatives died of Covid in massive numbers because they kept refusing to intentionally antagonize the people fighting Covid and every restriction put in place against it the only thing going through my head was
“I hope enough of them kicked the bucket to make Republicans unelectable so that tragedies like this can’t happen again.”
Guess what’s going through my head now?
I’m sad that it’s children paying the price though. They don’t have any say in anything. It’s child abuse to intentionally infect them with a preventable disease.
And the parents surely won’t blame themselves.
If only we stopped Miss Teacherlady from showing little Billy that Rainbow Flag, then maybe God would have loved him enough to save him from the Communist Measles… sigh
Seriously, there’s nothing wrong with having a religion (Despite what r/Atheism thinks), the problem is when you think it’s the answer to every question.
Its a matter of priority. People read horoscopes all the time, very common thing. Most people won’t put that “advice” in their top 10 reasons to do anything. Religion is bad when its priority #1, whether thats for a person or a whole country. Myths and folklore are the more appropriate versions of religion.
If only there was some way to control measles. Oh well, wishful thinking i guess.
You cannot control freedom freckles.
Measles? No no no, we’re talking America here, you mean
Freedom Sores
as vaccination rates plummet, freedom
soarssores
Naaah… I say we let those morons measel the ever-loving shit out of one another. But let them do it on an island somewhere in the middle of the Sea of Tranquility.
Olympus mons, if elon has anything to do with it. They can all take a one way trip.
Fuck Texas, its politicians and its stupid parents.
Not getting sick is what BIG PHARMA wants you to do!
Yeah, it’s big brain time.
Try and control those rabidly ignorant bigots you force-fed with anti-science, anti-reason raw red meat, let’s see how that goes.
This is 'Murica! Muh freehdum!Twenty thousand tons of ivermectin to Texas. Stat! That’ll fix everything!
mortality rate of 3% for unvaccinated kids.
gonna be a lot of depression-era grieving going on.
as always the price is paid by those without a choice
truth
People focus on mortality too while failing to account for the sorts of lifelong disabilities viruses like these cause when you do survive them. Absolutely sickening.
the lifelong disabilities will be awful
I don’t want to know that stat butttt do you know that stat? I’m curious anyway
20 to 30% have some form of complications, it’s particularly severe in the vulnerable, very young, very old and compromised immune systems.
I don’t think that includes the general weakened immune system that a lot of people experience after the measles, children apparently lose 12 to 73% of their antibodies following a mild measles infection.
it’s highly transmissible, 9 out of 10 people who are exposed and unvaccinated will get it.
https://www.idsociety.org/public-health/measles/know-the-facts/
there are a ton of stats and a ton of complications that can occur with measles, so it’s difficult to find one comprehensive number for everything, but everyone who is unvaccinated will probably get it after less than 90% of the population is vaccinated, 20 to 30% will develop complications, a lot of those are going to be permanent. and even the temporary complications can last for years.
We don’t have more recent data because it was eradicated so rapidly in 3 years after the vaccine was introduced, but prospects sure don’t look good for dumb families and whichever population they’re poisoning.
On the topic on non-mortal cases, this CDC page says the hospitalization rate for 2025 has been 20% (30% for <5 year olds)
Mmr and chickenpox both can cause Temporary infertility in men, if you catch it later. It because it causes inflammation in your tubes of the testes
3 percent of kids dead is a small price to pay for Texans to not have to reevaluate how they make decisions.
They’ll never stop defending their right to let others die for their obstinacy.
Measles wipes your immune system as well. You’ll be having a miserable next decade or longer getting sick from everything again.
There was a Simpson episode, about Maggie getting chickenpox and Marge had to make sure Homer doesn’t come close to her, since he never had it
Can’t wait to see conservative morons saying “hurr durr 3% isn’t even that high of a percent”
Have fun fighting a culture war against pathogens, Texas
They’re just unaware that a war against a culture of microorganisms is an entirely different thing.
Republicans think can win a war against viruses and bacteria,
Is measles that ‘woke mind virus’ Musk was talking about?
It’s a disease that only conservatives get
Pathogens are woke
