Don’t vote for the man, vote for the administration. The Trump administration will be evil incarnate and absolutely the end American democracy.
Right, the options in this election are:
- Mildly senile and slightly incompetent old man
- Fascist
Do you think Trump 1 and Biden 2? Or did we forget about the Genocide thing again?
Just keep ignoring that elephant in the room. It’s not Fascism if you don’t believe Palestinians are human!
Do you really believe fucking Trump as president will be better for Palestine? At least Biden (unsuccessfully) tried to get a cease fire going. Trump would probably nuke Palestine himself.
Guy’s a retard, just ignore him.
I’m sorry I missed the part where Joe Biden who sent 24 Billion in weapons, actively supports israel with military intelligence, defends them against retaliation, supplies them with weapons by bypassing congress and using secret loopholes, is not complicit.
Can you tell me more about Donald Trump though. I never knew that Biden’s Fascism was excused by the existence of Trump.
You guys really care a lot about Palestine you’re all such experts on how Joe Biden is preventing the Genocide from happening there.
Fascism is not defined by selling arms to a country that committed a genocide. Trump did that too, but that’s not the definition.
Fascism is defined by whatever arbitrary definition you can apply so only Donald Trump fits in it and Joe Biden doesn’t.
Biden: I’m going to give billions of dollars to Israel to kill Palestinians
Trump: I’m going to give billions of dollars to Israel to kill Palestinians and I’m going to egg them on while doing that and block other countries from helping
Biden: I’m giving billions of dollars to Israel to kill Palestinians and am blocking other countries from helping
Trump: I’m going to give billions of dollars to Israel to kill Palestinians and I’m going to egg them on while doing that and block other countries from helping
FTFY.
“What I said very plainly is get it over with, and let’s get back to peace and stop killing people. And that’s a very simple statement. Get it over with. They’ve got to finish what they finish. They have to get it done. Get it over with, and get it over with fast, because we have to, you have to get back to normalcy and peace,” Trump told The Hugh Hewitt Show.
Trump noted, “They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”
Trump continued arguing Israel had an issue with its public messaging and said, “Israel is absolutely losing the PR war.”
“And the other thing is I hate, they put out tapes all the time. Every night, they’re releasing tapes of a building falling down. They shouldn’t be releasing tapes like that. They’re doing, that’s why they’re losing the PR war. They, Israel is absolutely losing the PR war,” Trump said.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
So many people keep arguing past each other on this because there are 2 truths and each side sees their 1 truth as the end-all.
- Genocide is bad. Biden isn’t doing enough to stop Israel. But, Trump would accelerate it. And also do more genocide here too.
- We have a FPTP voting system meaning the first candidate across the line wins, so you either vote for A or B. If you abstain from voting or vote 3rd party it does not make any difference whatsoever to the outcome because it is still who crosses the line first. So you have to decide which of the 2 you want, or which of the 2 you DON’T want. And vote accordingly.
Everyone declaring “Genocide Joe” and voting 3rd party is missing the point that doing that could let Trump win. And that would be FAR worse.
And everyone declaring “Blue no matter who” and demonizing the people that want the genocide to end are missing the point that our system is fucked and does not represent us and both candidates are bad. Both candidates are right wing and our country WANTS someone on the left that represents the people, but we simply don’t have that.
If the election were between trump and another sack of shit, I would vote for the non-human looking sack of shit.
Biden may not be perfect, but he’s way better than a facist sack of shit.
trump isn’t the cause, he’s a symptom.
trump might be the worst so far, but so has every single Republican president going back to Nixon.
When the Republican nominee is finally not trump, there is zero logical reason to expect that next person to not be even more crazy.
We can’t keep reacting to them and treating every election like it’s the last night at the Alamo.
If we want to stop fascism we need long term planning, planning for what we do if we win, plans for when shit goes wrong, plans for fucking every contingency. Plans for the next decades even after we think we finally beat fascism.
That’s supposed to be the entire point of the national party. Long term strategy past any one candidate.
Instead they only care about raising as much money as humanely possible in the moment.
Shit is too real to just blindly vote blue no matter who, we need to start asking why the people running the party are even around. And if they’re honestly more worried about making money that stopping fascism.
The truly despicable people remain in the shadows.
Edit: despicable not disposable stupid autocorrect
I think you’re right about him not being the cause, but I’m not sure he’s just a symptom. At a minimum he’s certainly a catalyst.
That’s where I disagree.
trump just didn’t maintain a veneer of civility.
But any Republican president would have done 99% of the same shit trump did.
What would really be dangerous is someone that didn’t also run around admitting to all of their crimes, we barely are holding trump accountable and he’s completely blatant and unapologetic when breaking the rules.
If it had been Paul Ryan or Jeb in 2016…
We’d be even more fucked than now.
Here I think lies the main problem. When Biden was elected in 2020, in my understanding the goal was always for him to warm the seat for the next/younger generation. In those 4 years nobody stepped forward, and they are scared of proposing a forward looking vision because it may alienate some voters (either on the left or in the center). So now we have the choice between stagnation or actively tearing down Democracy.
You can’t put it on junior party members…
Biden appointed DNC leadership, and if anyone challenged him or the status quo, then they’d ruin their career if they missed.
Obama made it, but if he had lost 08 and gotten the 2016 Bernie treatment it would have likely ended his career.
I’d also argue the concern of the party and it’s leadership isn’t alienating voters, it’s pissing off donors.
For decades the neoliberals running the party have cared about donors over everything else. It’s literally killing the party and preventing us from “winning” even when Dems win an election.
Because the donors that the DNC doesn’t want to piss off, are often the same wealthy assholes giving to Republicans.
People desperately want to act like the Clinton’s attending Trump’s wedding was a one off.
But most of the big Dem donors have more in common with trump than us, and there’s no way they’re giving all that money away to just have to pay more in taxes.
The wealthy bought out both parties long ago, and we can’t just keep ignoring it.
It’s not enough to just be slightly less shitty than republicans.
We can’t keep reacting to them and treating every election like it’s the last night at the Alamo.
Thank you! While I do agree, voting for Biden is a no brainer when it comes to the binary choice, as someone from another country, this shit is frustrating.
You guys have had the same tone since 2016. I get it but clearly there is a huge crack in the system that is just propagating more and more.
The rest of the world is worried, as in worried long term, not just for November.
Interesting headline - its disconnected from the content of the article. Most of it is about how broken the US electoral system is.
The important point is that an electoral and political system that was designed to protect from the “tyranny of the majority” has instead created a system perpetuating the tyranny of the minority.
Americans are indoctrinated to think theirs in the greatest country on earth from a very young age. But the political system is an absolute mess - the electoral college, the senate (which is totally skewed in favour of small states), the supreme court and politicised legal system, and the embedded 2 party system.
Trump isn’t a threat to democracy. Democracy in the US has been dead for a long while now. It vaguely worked when there was a post war consensus but now it’s completely log jammed. And nobody has a plan to fix it because they can’t.
I think Brandon should fuck off. But i am 100% voting for him and it should be plain as day that while he is declining, he is nonetheless leagues superior to a fascist traitor.
Of course trump is an existential threat. Brandon is just a basic problem.
Brandon 2024. Fuck the republican traitor filth.
Brandon also filled his administration with a competent team of non-fascists and none of his relatives.
I think the Democrat party is a problem for pushing forward candidates that suck. There no way Trump wins in 2016 if he was going against somebody that was actually popular.
I am getting serious 2016 vibes this cycle. Biden should never have run a second time. And after that debate performance it feels like continuing with Biden is just as big of a mistake.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
And the storm of white-hot criticism that rained down on his head from friends and foes alike after the 2024 election’s embarrassing and disastrous first presidential TV debate with Donald Trump was blistering.
The other is that Trump, wholly lacking in principle and propriety, is a hate-spewing ethical vacuum who will stop at nothing to get elected – and, if allowed back into the Oval Office, will launch a reign of revenge.
For real-time as opposed to prime-time insight into the Trump menace, consider the testimony of John Kelly, his longest-serving White House chief of staff – a man who watched him up close daily.
They include deportations of millions of undocumented migrants, a sweeping, global trade war-triggering 10% tax on imports, unlimited oil drilling, the abandonment of Ukraine to Russia and the evisceration of Nato.
The debate not only highlighted Trump’s unchanged, unhinged behaviour, it also underscored fundamental constitutional problems that have enabled this lowlife to move within touching distance of the world’s most powerful job once more.
Thanks to the anachronistic electoral college, unbalanced bodies such as the Senate (where each of the 50 states has two representatives regardless of population size) and lifetime appointments of federal judges and supreme court justices, political minorities wield disproportionate power.
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This bot sucks, and the author obviously won’t listen to anyone’s suggestions. Blocked.
AIPAC wants Trump and 14a3 is not on their policy platform
And Beryl and it’s super storm family on the Atlantic. Looks like FEMA is going to need FeMan to save them. (Fe is the element symbol for Iron…Iron Man? Anybody???)
Donald Trump being a menace to democracy was in Bidens lap at the very start of his term, rallying an attempt to violently overthrow the election. And Biden, the new head of the executive branch, the branch of enforcing the law, just did nothing about it. And nothing about his many crimes beforehand, the documented collusion with Russians, blackmailing Ukraine to interfere in the election, the obstruction of justice, the assassination of Epstein. Trump wasnt held accountable and it was Bidens job to hold him to account. And now here we are.
it was Bidens job to hold him to account
It was the justice departments job.
Biden should have appointed someone better to head the DOJ, then.
America’s big problem is not Joe Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Donald Trump
It’s neither, the problem is the illusion that we call democracy, and the compromises we (the people, not the rulers, of course) are told we have to make in order to maintain it (AKA the status quo) despite it being designed to keep us down (again, by providing an illusion of choice) rather than serve us.
As another person already said - trump is just a symptom, it is the system that enables and encourages his existence, and it is the system that needs to be abolished if the working class is to ever have a shot at justice, equity, and equality.
Articles like this are acts of systemic self defence - deflection to keep us looking at the illusion instead of the reality.
No, it’s Joe Biden. Republicans are total pieces of shit, but they wear their shit on their sleeve. People like Joe Biden Company or like snakes in the grass that hide among us claiming to be our ally. The Joe Biden we saw at the debates was the Joe Biden that the DNC has known about for years yet they still pushed him as their preferred candidate and refusing to primary him. Not allowing voters a right to choose who they would like to elect is not democratic
The neolibs don’t like when you point out the dems just throw pride flag stickers on the bombs they sell to Israel.
