Is this before or after the teslas can drive themselves? /s
- or before or after he builds underground tunnels for Teslas across country?
Sounds like a great idea. Much easier to block the ends and trap them all in there.
And HYPERLOOP
He needs to hurry up and od on ketamine before he figures out to upload his consciousness into neuralink and we end up in Altered Carbon.
It takes a lot of k to od. Cant we get him addicted to fent or something quicker?
Just keep him in the hot tub. Let nature take its course.
The truth is, the tub was rigged from the start
Literally all we gotta do is cyber bully him harder collectively. He sleeps next to a pistol and has a known substance abuse issue which clouds his perception. One good K-hole and we can call it
cocaine is probably easier to acquire for him.
Lead poisoning should do it, at high velocity.
Long term/chronic use can also lead to serious life threatening complications.
If he uploads his consciousness I’m going to download a copy of it, mod it into the Sims, and torture it on loop.
Related story of the horrors of uploading yourself 🤭
cocaine is most likely to OD you than KETAMINE.
Will just say it is really fucking hard to od on cocaine and it is one of the scariest feelings you can experience. Well unless you have a death wish
not if you combine it with multiple drugs. which ketamine-musk is likely doing.
He’s cooked, pack it in. If we’re lucky he’ll fall in love with an AI pigeon and live out the rest of his days in squalor, which is the only part of Nicola Tesla’s legacy he deserves.
He’s fucking Grok, isn’t he?
If he isn’t yet, he’s actively trying to figure out how.
Yes he is and if he isn’t I don’t care I now deem it to be the truth that he is.
That’s amount of respect to reality that he deserves.
Guess they figured out how to bring scarcity to the solar market.
Can people stop listening to this lying robot dicked fuck?
That’s not how weather works you moron.
More interestingly, if he truly announced that idea, he’d have to be admitting climate change is real in the first place.
He already has? Y’all seem to have forgotten he started as a liberal darling.
Technically, physics does allow a satellite-based method to deal with climate change. Economics, on the other hand, does not. You would need to chuck an unfathomable amount of mass into orbit.
Do you though? I mean, a satellite orbiting the sun between the earth and the sun could cast a large shadow, right?
Not really. Case in point - the Moon. It’s absolutely massive, like several orders of magnitude larger than any satellite we’ve ever launched, and when it happens to line up just right between the Earth and the Sun, the umbra is only like 150km wide.
If the sun was a point light source that is accurate. It is not though. You would need an absolutely enormous sat to cast a shadow that would actually affect our weather. Plus you would also need a way to keep it in position as the solar radiation would push it out of position quickly.
That’s… Not how shadows work… Or orbital mechanics… Or economics…
His suggestion, impossible as it is at the current stage of human development, is slightly less impossible than this.
Yeah, that’s why. He must have some weird misunderstanding to think it’s actually doable.
psst… “climate”… and pray tell, which energy source do you think powers the atmosphere to exhibit weather or climate?
Geothermal? Tidal? Nuclear isotope decay in the core?
All of the above Pat.
Take away the Sun. You think what’s left is gonna drive any weather of any kind? With that liquid oxygen sea on the surface…
Also, the sun.
no. just… no.
(fuck)
Emphasis on “tiny” adjustments, per the article. I don’t think Elmo comprehends just how much surface area is going to be required to make any measurable let alone meaningful impact, nor the cost of hefting all of that mass up there and keeping it there.
This whole crackhead idea is completely infeasible. But he probably hopes it’ll help him scam the government out of a bunch of money trying (and failing), while wasting vast amounts of rocket fuel.
Usually when people talk about this kind of thing, they suggest making a sun shade and delivering it to the Lagrange point between the earth and sun. It certainly feels more reasonable to do it that way. But I wonder which method really is more feasible. (Obviously both methods aren’t realistic right now)
Well, two things about that.
One, the L1 Lagrange point between the Earth and Sun is further out than the orbit of the moon. Even without doing any math, just a cursory observation of how shadows work will illustrate that, given that the moon itself can just barely cover the disc of the sun from where it is, any such object placed there would need to have a diameter larger than that of the moon in order to completely block the sun’s light. Or some appreciable and nontrivial fraction of the diameter of the moon if you only want to block part of the sun’s light. Lofting something that massive up there and more importantly keeping it there given that it’d also be well within the gravitational influence of the moon would be quite the challenge. (“Quite the challenge,” by the way, is rocket scientist talk for, “This is complete science fiction, and whoever suggested it is insane.”)
Point two is that the Deep Space Climate Observatory is currently already parked there.
You wouldn’t be blocking all of the suns light. That’d kill us. Blocking 2% would be a noticeable “fix”. It’s been a thought out on paper project for decades. It’s “possible” in the strictest sense, but would take something (or many smaller somethings) the size of most of South America to do. It would take thousands of launches to a destination around 800,000 miles away, and then it would also all have to be able to adjust for orbital changes because the lagrange point isn’t a stable orbit.
We just need another massive once a millennium volcano eruption. Throw the world into chaos and starve half the population to death while the earth is half covered in atmospheric ash for a year. The slow Thanos snap.
the lagrange point isn’t a stable orbit.
That’s totally true, but to be fair, it’s still more stable and requires less maneuvering than low earth orbit. So if we’re comparing the two orbits…
We just need another massive once a millennium volcano eruption. Throw the world into chaos and starve half the population to death while the earth is half covered in atmospheric ash for a year. The slow Thanos snap.
I gotta be honest, that sounds like a less-than-optimal solution. But I like that you’re thinking outside the box!
Lol. Thanks.
Low earth orbit is consistently unsstable but the drag and gravity is pretty consistent so you’re guaranteed to have to consistently adjust away from earth and speed up, or go the starlink route and just plan on launching a satellite replacement every 5 years(they do still have thrusters and adjust to stay in the right areas for their lifespan).
The lagrange point actually has a wobble to it. Due to solar radiation and gravity from other planets as they move around, so that sweet little perfect spot of neutral gravity moves around in distance between the sun and the earth all the time.
We’d probably have an easier time covering like 5% of our planet in mirrors spread out all over the place. That would cool the planet down by about 2c. Good luck keeping them all clean.
any such object placed there would need to have a diameter larger than that of the moon
Well that’s kind of my point, that’s still a lot smaller than what Elon is suggesting. Elon suggested a sphere with a diameter larger than the earth, if the alternative is a disk larger than the moon, well that actually seems like a much better deal. Also, assuming a disk and a sphere have an equal diameter, the sphere has 4 times the surface area, so that’s not a trivial difference.
Lofting something that massive up there and more importantly keeping it there given that it’d also be well within the gravitational influence of the moon would be quite the challenge.
That’s interesting. Yeah that could be a challenge. Given the size of the thing, it seems like the obvious thing would be to utilize solar wind for maneuvering, as it’s already essentially a solar sail.
The Japanese space agency tested a solar sail in orbit with a novel steering system, rather than changing shape, it used something much like LCD cells to shutter individual quadrants of the sail. Something like that could potentially work.
Point two is that the Deep Space Climate Observatory is currently already parked there.
Yeah, that’s a good point. Although if you were actually building something this big out there, you would probably build in some capacity for probes to dock to it. This is a huge installation after all, a facility more than a probe. Or just add on a module that duplicates the capabilities of the deep space climate observatory. I mean once you’re constructing something this massive, that additional cost has gotta be a drop in the bucket, right?
This dude is like some drugged out crazy guy ranting on a street corner.
Just some drugged out crazy guy manipulating entire governments to his increasingly unhinged whims.
Can we not indulge into the fantasy of a wanna be super villain?
Actually, I’m just here to ridicule it
I’m here to turn a cart around in a narrow hallway
Yes, why not let an emotionally fragile, egotistical maniac control the weather? What a good idea.
It really is every accusation is rooted in some desire to actually be doing the thing: Fema camps, weather control, space lasers. These fuckers want all the stupid shit they dream up to be afraid of.
Didn’t Simpsons do this? Feel like they already did this…
Hey hey hey. Elon. 1-2-3-eyes on me. Ok? Listen little man. You have to put away all the toys you already got out before you start getting any more toys out. You made a big mess out there in low Earth orbit already, you need to help clean it up before you start any more games. Got-it got-it?
Yes, I know you don’t want to, but sometimes we have to do things we don’t want to. Yes, even if you took all of the play money for yourself.
Yes, I know your daddy owned an emerald mine. That doesn’t mean you don’t have a responsibility to help keep this whole place usable.
Also, while you’re doing your cleanup, there’s still a hole you dug in Las Vegas that you forgot about, and you also need to apologize to the rest of the class for breaking the government services they all enjoyed, and help everyone put them back together.
I know it’s not going to be easy to fix them. That’s why we don’t break things, right? That’s right. Especially when…? When we don’t know what they’re for, right. But you can do hard things, especially if you have help.
I know you fed it into a wood chipper, Elon. We all watched you do it. No, I don’t think it’s funny or epic.
Ok. Well if you aren’t going to help clean up, I think we might need to have a consequence, ok? …no, the consequence can not be going to Mars.
I appreciate the sentiment, and that was very eloquent, but this fucking criminal shouldn’t be treated like an errant child. He’s an adult and should face the full force of justice as a cognisant adult that has repeatedly and unrepentantly committed heinous crimes. Fuck him.
Yes. Joking aside, he absolutely should be punished. But fascism wilts in the face of ridicule; the one thing they cannot abide is people not taking them seriously. The only time the Harris campaign ever made any headway was when Walz was calling the GOP “weird,” and the repeated attacks & threats against late night show hosts prove that they just can’t handle it.
In this case, I got the idea (and even some of the language) from a video content creator who goes by “mrs.frazzled.” Her stuff points out how profoundly unserious these people are, even though their actions have serious consequences and they desperately need to feel important.
I know I’m not exactly writing Uncle Tom’s Cabin here, and I wouldn’t claim that this is some meaningful resistance. Just wanted to explain.
Fair point, and I said something similar about using mockery against them not all that long ago, but that’s only useful when they actually see or hear it, and that’s unlikely for a random post on lemmy. I recommend joining Truth Social and posting it there. (I don’t actually recommend joining Truth Social - I’m not a monster)
Anyway, carry on.
Heh, yeah, I’m fresh out of hazmat suits, so I’m going to stay away from that particular site.
Yeah, I know it’s never going to be something that Musk sees (even though he’s weirdly, like, the most chronically-online billionaire ever). But maybe normalizing it here means that more people will do it in places where he can see it? I dunno.
He will have a lot of time on earth to clean thanks to the kessler syndrome he would create.
We already have the answer of how to deal with this:
We can and have shut this thing down when the political will is available. The efficiencies developed in agriculture and manufacturing have shown that the vast majority of economic activity is effectively idle, not necessary, and purely for the purpose of creating the impression of larger economies than are actually present.
No one starved due to lock-downs. No governments collapsed. Netflix views increased. People took on hobbies and got more exercise.
We have an exact template of what we would need to do to save our climate future.
All that we lack is the political will. And no, geoengineering solutions to prop up and support a broken approach to economics isn’t a solution.
While I agree that we have the technology to wildly decreas emissions by just cutting down on inefficient production, I do want to point out people did infact starve due to covid/lockdowns. Many lost jobs, big corps took the opportunity to run mom and pop shops out of buissness, prices skyrocketed. My family wen’t from scrapping by to relying on food drives
It cost governments around the world trillions of dollars to get through COVID… The uk’s debt went from 80% of GDP to 100% in the space of just 18 months. It’s hardly a viable economic plan to carry out on an ongoing basis.
Many non essential industries and travel just completely froze And guess what? Co2 production barely even stuttered according to your graph.
The solution is to transition into a renewable, prosperous, circular economy. Not go backwards into poverty.
No one starved due to lock-downs.
Not true, the pandemic caused major inflation, doing the same for a prolonged period of time would be devastating.
But there are ways we can cut CO2 without increasing inflation. Like make the use of private jets illegal.
USA could cut their CO2 in half by following the model Denmark has developed since the 70’s.
Denmark has higher industrial and agricultural production than USA, and has more data centers per capita than USA, yet we only release half the CO2 per capita. And that’s without using nuclear!next pandemic when?
Fuck off Elon. Nobody likes you.
Don’t say that.
People constantly telling him that nobody likes him is how we got this megalomanic asshole in the first place. Like before he stole the idea for PayPal and was just getting in random fist fights with his brother, everybody seemed to hate him.
So like, it’s true, but Jesus keep it down. He’s probably got a ghost profile on Lemmy and uses it to virtually suck his own dick because it can’t be done physically anymore.
I find it unlikely, but it would be funny if he was on lemmy. I haven’t seen a single positive thing said about him here.
Oh so the thing right wing loons like to say the Jews already do?
