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    We’re at the point where its not going to be safe and cuddly. Say no, make the administration attack you. Its bigger than ourselves time bois.

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      Worse. If I destroy (or remove and hide away) a book, it still exists, as long as there’s at least another copy, the manuscript, an editor’s digital backup, etc. You cannot copy art. It’s never the same exact piece the artist sculpted with their fingers.

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      All of the museum people (curators, assistant curators, curatorial assistants, devo, registration, facilities generally make starvation wages. They tend to be deeply proud of their work and the contant of the museum and thats why they work there. So this nonsense has to be absolutely gutting everyone there, and probably across the Smithsonian museums in general. I feel really bad for them along with all the African Americans being attacked by this.

      This action takes all of their work through their career and kind of lights it all on fire, for no reason but that Trump is angry at the world because he has a tiny penis and knows that everyone he knows cant stand him.

      Stay strong, museum folks.

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        Also the examples listed here the artifacts are going back to their original owners who have already protected these items for years or decades. I think the curators and other museum people would rather have the items in safe private hands instead of unsafe public hands.

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        They tend to be deeply proud of their work

        Not anymore I guess

        Stay strong, museum folks.

        Stay?

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      I used to roll my eyes at all the “sheeple” comments, but to be honest, looking at what’s happening in the US recently and seeing how many people just capitulate to the bullies I’m not so sure anymore… It’s just really sad and depressing :(

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        You forget that like 40% of people in the US are fine with this. It’s more depressing when you realize the reason people aren’t fighting back is because they’re fine with it.

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          I wouldn’t say 40% are “fine with this”. Its more like 40% of Americans are some combination of: Uneducated by design, Brainwashed by decades of propaganda, Kept so far in poverty they can’t focus on anything but their next paycheck, indoctrinated into toxic religious communities, etc. The current state of the US, has been carefully molded and shaped into what it is now by the fascists in power.

          As for people not fighting back? Some are. Not enough of course, but that goes back to keeping people in poverty. It would take me, for example, 7 hours of driving just to get to my state capitol to protest. Not to mention a couple hundred $ in gas. People working two jobs and living paycheck to paycheck just can’t do that realistically.

          I hate that my country has turned into this fascist shithole and wish that more people would rally and fight. I hate that I’m sitting here making excuses for these people but I’m really trying not to lose my humanity in all this. The sad truth of the matter, though, is that people won’t fight unless their life is disrupted so much that it snaps them out of their survival mentality. Bread and Circuses and all that.

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          Fuck OFF. You know exactly what to do- it’s what your countrymen did, more than once, when they accomplished the things all of you have spent a couple centuries loudly taking credit for.

          Do you think there weren’t colonists who were worried that rebellion would cost them their livelihoods? Do you think your grandparents fought the Nazis risk-free? You aren’t special. Your shitty job that you hate isn’t special. They were real people- you understand that, right? Everyone who ever stood up for anything consequential had plenty to lose.

          For as long as I live, I never want to hear another American crowing about their oh-so-grand revolutionary spirit. But, sure, whatever- wait until your country decides to invade us and hope that we’ll take action since you spent three decades watching with your thumbs up your asses and failing to do anything while the rest of us accurately explained to you precisely what was going to happen.

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          That is a great example of propaganda.

          It reads like a normal comment, but it’s literally intended to suppress any attempts at resistance by pretending there’s nothing that can be done.

          And the scary part is that the person who posted it might have fallen for it themselves and believed it when they posted.

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          You’re supposed to fight the small battles that come your way. You’re supposed to refuse to do the bad thing.

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          This attitude is understandable but it is exactly the attitude that enables faschism. Germany in the 1930s is calling. The existential crisis, the fatalism, The call for a leader to make everything better. The time for change without risks is gone. Stakes gonna get much higher wirh time if the opposition does not move fast. Everybody has to get involved.

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          Your position is absolutely understandable. What you and your fellow citizens can do are

          • attending protests
          • battling the administration if you are the administrator of some company/agency/museum that the government wants to dismantle
          • making your voice be heard on social media as well

          The government wants you as apathetic as possible. Don’t let them be right

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              I don’t think that’s true. There’s big power in what people demonstrably believe.

              Knowing that everyone else is fighting back too is emboldening.

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                25 years ago, maybe.

                Now, seeing protest after protest while the Trump administration does whatever it wants EVEN HARDER is like watching the opposing team in Air Bud wring their hands about the rulebook while a fucking golden retriever dunks on them over and over.

                Peaceful protests are feeding demoralization and making things worse, not better.

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                  Do you think sitting on your arse claiming there’s nothing to be done is more or less demoralising than singing in the streets with like minded people?

                  Maybe you work different than most humans, but I think the answer to that is pretty obvious for the rest of us.

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          None of us want to lose our housing, our jobs, or our lives,

          Then you can go on doing nothing until you’re conscripted to invade Canada.

          And if we manage to do so, who the hell is gonna take his place? JD Vance? Some other fascist?

          You’re looking down a revolution here; why is your first reflex to name JD Vance? Put whoever you goddamn like in charge that’s the whole point.

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          Yes what just go into fascism because it’s hard to resist.

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          CaN’t fIGhT fAsCiSm cAUsE yOu gOtTa mAkE a BuCk.

          LOL murikkkans love to talk the big talk about tyranny but when fascism is right in their face it’s nothing but excuses.

          🤡

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    I’m just here to point out that the image looks like a sand crawler. Utinni!

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        Maybe leave the room while the adults are talking

        I see how you go around on Lemmy saying Twitter-length insult comments on political discussions. An agent of mockery for Putin lovers.

        Russia-watcher Catherine Fitzpatrick, who documents Kremlin disinformation for InterpreterMag .com, says just as Moscow uses vague Internet laws to encourage self-censorship, trolls inhibit informed debate by using crude dialogue to change “the climate of discussion.” “If you show up at The Washington Post or New Republic sites, where there’s an article that’s critical of Russia, and you see that there are 200 comments that sound like they were written by 12-year-olds, then you just don’t bother to comment,” she says. “You don’t participate. It’s a way of just driving discussion away completely,” she adds. “Those kinds of tactics are meant to stop democratic debate, and they work.”

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          It was more of a subtle call for violence than anything. Giving money to any group is absolutely pointless because when was the last time you recall a group, who asked for money, ever accomplishing their goal?

          Everyone is just profiting on pain as the ship sinks.

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            I donate to loads of NGOs who accomplish great things. Typically I donate after they’ve done something amazing, to keep the momentum going.

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              I’d be happy to donate to something after they get something done. Even a small step. But some random political organization promising to fight the good fight is a joke

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    The utter destruction of the republic continues apace. Russia’s published plan was always to do this US in by inflaming racial tensions. I’d imagine this is just the next step in the playbook.

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        I shouldve helped in the genocide? So we lost by one vote? Darn I guess this is on me then, although to be fair my state went for harris and we dont use the general vote count for anything, but thats not the point for you is it. Because you arent here with any realistic points.

        Funny story, my state was called for Harris before even one vote was reported.

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          Hold up. You didn’t vote in your local elections for third parties though? You just didn’t vote at all? And have opinions? I don’t get it

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              I suffer from no illusion that the US is terrible for Palestine. However, not understanding that we had two (2) choices for president and Trump is not only worse for Palestine, but also a complete and utter fucking moron and also has authoritarian tendencies so therefore I will help Palestine by not voting for Harris, facilitating Trump’s return to office is beyond my ability to understand.

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              Yep they are just as bad as MAGA seeing as they ushered in Trump 2.0

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          Ah so trump made the genocide better? Funny story no states were called before votes were reported.

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              You shared a fake picture. I know you’re smart enough to do a reverse image search to see that’s a bad Facebook meme. Hawaii counted their votes before calling it for Harris. Predominantly Hawaii is vote by mail or early voting. A simple Google search would show this. But it’s easier to lie when we don’t understand something like that. Next time you want to prove a point don’t post an iFunny link. Besides funny pics was always better

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    Anyone wanna take bets on whether the artifacts and exhibts are being properly taken off display and stored, or if they are just being tossed in a dumpster somewhere…

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        You guys consider reading the article instead of guessing? The article is about one book and one bible being returned to one person.

        The Smithsonian responded to DC News Now, stating:

        The Bible and book belong to Rev. Brown of San Francisco who generously loaned them to the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture for an exhibition. The loan agreement has expired and the items are being returned (in May) to the owner which is standard museum practice for any loan. The curator called and wrote to Rev. Brown.

        None of these objects are leaving the Smithsonian.”

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      ~46% of Americans are republican and strongly support trump no matter what he does-- even now his support amongst republicans is extremely high around social and wedge issues.

      ~45% of Americans are democrats, and of those, ~55% are in support of progressive causes, while the remainder ~45% of dems are centrist or lean conservative-- mainly concerned with preserving their current rights and daily way of life. Although they are a minority of dems, the non-progressives control the party’s legal apparatus so the democrats are a house very dvided so are unlikely to be winning any elections anytime soon. The centrists have proven that they’d much rather lose than let the progressives take control of the party. The math shows us that just 24.75% of the country is progressive-- these are people who’d care to keep the black history museum open.

      The independents (not dem or republican) usually fall between republican and Dem centrist, so they likely don’t accrue to progressive numbers in this case.

      So probably just over 75% of Americans want this or dont care to fight this. You can only trust 1 in 4 Americans to be against this on principle. And those 1 in 4 dont have a political party that will loyally rally around their causes-- especially this far from an election.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/poll-sizeable-chunk-americans-think-neither-party-fights-people-rcna202884

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      A lot of us dont want any of this, but also arent either the autocrat in charge, the billionaires who bought him, nor are we the military that can stop him.

      As much as a lot of us would stop this immediately if we could, we also dont need to let Trump have his Tienammen Square moment. The military should have removed him the moment it was clear that he is hell bent on destabilizing our country, our region, and the world at large.

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      MAGAts do. Nobody else. But if I have to choose between some museum artifacts and trying to keep myself and my family safe, I’m putting my efforts to the latter. So you can sit there comfy and judge like some armchair revolutionary, but you’re wrong.