At what point is someone going to tell Donald that the end result of pushing and pushing on this narrative to the point of realization… Is going to result in Article 5 being activated, Europe and NATO formally going to war against the US, and the US tearing itself apart as factions decide to move to the Ammo box after the soap, ballot and jury boxes failed.
This is absolutely a red line. and it will cause a civil war. as well as the total destruction of the world order. Xi and Putin may end up getting so erect that they die of heart attacks.
Angry piss baby throws tantrum when told her can’t have new toy
FTFY
As an European it’s pretty clear now that the US is our enemy. This is just the start. We really need to put our military in order and prepare for the inevitable attack.
The US is also the enemy of the US. Its worst one, in fact.
Damn americans! They ruined America!
They really did!
Please just don’t nuke us. Most of us hate him.
The good news is we are a very stupid enemy
It’s impossible to catch up to the US war machine in 4 years only. We can only start the process, but I also doubt the US would sit by idly and let us become too powerful.
The nice thing is that Trump will replace our best generals and other leadership with utter incompetents.
We don’t really need the power to be able to attack the US. Just enough to be able to defend ourselves and that is far from impossible even in 4 years.
Attack the US?
You guys are crazy for even entertaining the idea.
Guess we can start by reaching the NATO spending goals
We dont need a large army to defend ourselfs. Just enough to deter.
The industrial military complex tips its hat and smiles.
As an Australian I wish we’d negotiate to join the EU. Philosophically we have more in common with the EU then America and together is better.
But we cant even join with New Zealand and od not ne suporsed if the EU didnt want us, I’d not want us, though we do all seem to mostly hate immigrants so we have that in common :(
Our previous governments have tied us to the US so tightly that we may as well be a US vassal state. Whatever America’s foreign policy is, is Australia’s policy. Our military is dependent on the US for its equipment.
It would be great to have more ties to the EU and SE Asian counties but thats unlikely to happen unfortunately.
Don’t worry. The US may have the most experienced, well funded, and outfitted military on the planet, but the bafoons at the top keep getting in the way of the military executing a war the way it wants to.
See: Iraq 2, WMD boogaloo, or the cult classic Vietnam: Congress goes to war.
You really aren’t even joking at all. This is what happens when Congress gets out of the way of the military.
Dude has a channel dedicated to telling the unbelievable stories of what our soldiers have done when the leash comes off.
Warning: dude is a conservative, so his takes on socialism and communism are what you’d expect
I wasn’t kidding in the slightest. If the DoD had executed the second Iraq invasion it would have taken a few days. But Rumsfeld and his croneys insisted on it being done their way, and they didn’t know shit about fuck when it came to warfare. (Note: this may have been because Rumsfeld was lying and committing crimes that, had the military done things the way they wanted, would have been exposed.)
It is wild to think that EU-US relations might worsen because Trump wants to annex Greenland, jeez.
The orange turd is a perfect representation of the turds he represents.
Sorry for multiple posts, but my points are different.
Impose tariffs on Denmark? Do you all know what we import from Denmark? Medication and medical devices. So that would further increase the cost of healthcare in the US. He already signed an executive order to undo the $35 insulin cap for Medicaid recipients. He is actively raising healthcare prices.
Tariffs would only hurt both countries.
There is no way to impose tariffs on Danish goods. We’re part of the EU, and the inner market, so we’ll just send the goods from some other EU country. So any tariff on Denmark would have to be a tariff on EU.
Tariffs seem to be Trump’s go-to move nowadays. “Grab them by the wallet”.
- To Putin: stop the war or tariffs!
- To Europe: buy more US oil or tariffs!
- To Denmark: gimme Greenland or tariffs!
- To Melania (probably): pretend you can still bear being in the same room with me or tariffs!
- McDonald’s - “cash or card, sir?” “Tariffs!”
His voters still don’t seem to have figured out that just means things will cost them more.
it’s annoying that politicians don’t call it what it is: import tax.
Oh, not his beloved McDonald’s.
Not “Grab them” but “Grab the US consumer”. Tariffs raise prices inside the USA. The target country only loses by being less competitive in the US market.
Trump wants to raise import taxes on goods from everyone, so only US goods are competitive. Trouble is the US has exported a bunch of manufacturing so it must import.
https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=undo+insulin+cap+trump what are all these articles saying?
Wait he seriously undid the cap already??? Fucking for real?
Like I shouldn’t be surprised…
It was only capped for Medicare recipients like retirees and congresspersons, HHS is still reporting it as active policy
Thank you for the correction,it’s a shame all this discussion happened without that context
On Day One, iirc
https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=undo+insulin+cap+trump
many articles say that this didn’t happen.
It’s also an integrated EU economy, so I’d assume the entire European single market would retaliate.
But yeah, he doesn’t care about or understand that. Or at least won’t until there’s active unrest in America over the crazy inflation and layoffs.
None of that is ever blamed on the Republican president in office though.
To date, it hasn’t been the president’s fault. The shit they do makes it’s way to workers and consumers well after they leave office, for the most part. This would be different, and in some cases very uneven - if there’s an accross-the-board 25% tariff with Canada, the Detroit auto industry basically shuts down and lays everyone off today.
It all makes sense when you accept that he’s been installed by our enemies to destroy the US.
No, actually he was installed by our oligarchs to destroy the country, so they can buy it for cheap. Just like last time!
“they are the same picture”
Our
Enemies
Watch USAmericans go to war against russia instead of finally killing their slavers. They never learned who their true enemy is so far, lets hope this time is different.
Unlikely
Actually he was installed by incredibly stupid, shortsighted and/or far right people in a process called democracy 🤷♂️
When the media that people are shown is microtargeted and controlled by 2 billionaires who are buddies with Trump, you don’t have a democracy anymore.
I don’t know why the Danish PM would waste his time even talking to Traitorapist Trump. The whole world knows Trump is a notorious liar.
I don’t know why the Danish PM would waste his time even talking to Traitorapist Trump.
What ? Is there a gender thing I’m missing here?
Probably just didn’t know and the majority of heads of state are men so it’s not an unfair assumption. I certainly didn’t know she was a woman and I wouldn’t have looked it up to get the right pronouns in a post on here.
The US will be spending the next several decades building their reputation back up.
The US is never more than 4 years away from electing a lunatic. Soft power is not really a possibility anymore.
Uh… I think it’s never coming back.
We had our chance to course correct, and didn’t. And I suspect dems are either going to learn nothing and flop the next election, literally get suppressed by Trump, or get their own version of a “liberal Trump.”
Our social media is only going to get more toxic now, and it’s already dominating public discourse.
I dunno where you live, friend, but do not assume the US is digging its way out of this hole :(
Were you making the assumption that the US had a good reputation before that ?
Half of the world hated it outright and the other half was mostly just playing along because of its economic or military power and propensity to behave like a bully.
The only difference is that Trump is too stupid to do it quietly.
It will come back eventually. The Germans were Nazis for a while and we like them now.
Yea, but they were fixed by military, economic and political means. Nobody is big enough to fix the US.
Nobody is big enough to fix the US.
Time to split the US then? East US gets to keep Washington DC, West US creates new capital city in Oregon?
The US is big enough to stop the US, we’ve done it before and I’m fairly certain Georgia is still flammable.
It would be nice to avoid a civil war (that would be more useful to enemies), but if you go to war with allies, it starts to become less unthinkable.
The Germans are currently having a fascist resurgence right now as well. I hope their elections go well where they can form functional coalitions.
The US simply will not survive in its current form for another 20 or 30 years. Whether by slow, festering rot or violent implosion.
Until the next insurrectionist fascist rapist turns up. They seem to like them over, say, having to make difficult choices over there. Except that the choice wasn’t even that difficult to begin with.
No way that is ever happening. We are a dying empire, rotting from the inside out. Because of a massive amount of inertia, the decline is really only starting to become obvious widely, but we are well into the phase where the ruling class has given up and is just looting the carcass before it hits the ground. They have succeeded in distracting the general public from the dire circumstances for a long time, but things are so far gone at this point, that won’t really be necessary much longer. As we proceed to give up on democracy, the efficacy of political influence withers away. The real danger for the world is that we have a massive military infrastructure ready to lash out in increasingly desperate spasms as the organism desperately tries to prolong agency. It is past time for the world community to organize against the threat the US poses to them. This is just getting started.
The US has military installations in 55 countries, I’m afraid that very soon, they’ll turn on the people they promised to “protect.” Total global shakedown. Just like the American oligarchy will have no qualms about further dismantling public infrastructure and driving wages and living conditions of their own populace down into bare survival mode if it means they can become trillionaires. Plus, poor and desperate people make good soldiers.
This is really the most astute take I’ve read, so far.
All great empires go through to decline, the fascinating thing about the US is that it happened so quickly.
Not really. Usually the decline starts out slowly, but once it reaches a certain point it finishes collapsing very quickly.
Well, the Roman Empire took about 450 years before to started to go tits up.
Bold of you to assume this is a blip.
Even if sanity is restored next election cycle, I think at this point no one will ever trust us again knowing that in 4 years there’s a huge chance all hell will break loose again.
That ship has sailed. Long term partnerships and alliances are impossible if your country leaves them every other election cycle.
Yea, one trump
saluteelection is bad, but two shows that it was not a fluke :/
Please post non paywall links
Embarrassing dangerous clown country.
Frederiksen offered closer co-operation with the US on military bases and mineral exploitation on the island, but senior European officials said Trump baulked at the offer, demanding full US control.
You could get everything without being a colonialist bully! FFS.
I was hoping it would say someone finally told Trump, “Bitch, get back in your place because no one is putting up with your shit.” Imagine my disappointment at the reasonable attempt to lower tensions and appease.
Serious politicians (and I use that term loosely) are not used to dealing with someone as utterly demented as trump on a daily basis. They’re used to long boring meetings and talking politely behind each others backs. Not … this.
People had a hard time understanding Hitler at first, too, and he wrote a fucking book about what he was about to do before he actually went and did it.
Trump is head of state of the most powerful country in the world, with a Supreme Court that seems willing to crown him king, and he’s psychologically unstable. You can’t tell a man like that to fuck off.
Thanks, Americans, for putting us all in this situation.
Summary:
In a recent 45-minute phone call, U.S. President Donald Trump reiterated his demand for the United States to gain control over Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory. Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen firmly responded that Greenland is not for sale. According to European officials, the conversation was aggressive, with Trump threatening punitive tariffs against Denmark if it refused to relinquish control of Greenland. Frederiksen proposed enhanced cooperation on military bases and mineral exploitation in Greenland, but Trump dismissed these offers, insisting on full U.S. control. This development has heightened concerns in Europe about strained transatlantic relations, especially following Trump’s recent threats of heavy tariffs on the EU and demands for increased defense spending from NATO allies.
Why is Denmark even offering anything at all
Why is Denmark even offering anything at all
As others have pointed out, the US play here is likely to be stopping payments for the current US military based in Greenland but not leaving, testing its limits (operating outside of the designated areas), and generally just begging for a response. At this point the Danish (and the EU generally) will have to choose - if they do nothing then it’ll encourage more of this BS in Greenland and elsewhere. If they respond with any force it’ll be what Trump wants. He’ll use it as pretense for…whatever he wants to do.
This behaviour will make it far less likely that all of the US international partners will renew military base leases or sign new ones, and long term it will diminish American military power globally, but nobody in MAGA let alone Trump are really thinking beyond the immediate anyways.
So the answer your question, the Danes are trying to avoid all of that BS.
Denmark is normally otherwise an ally of the US.
However, this call has spooked the Danes. There will 100% be escalations from the Danes to protect themselves as a result.
Art of the Deal.
well thats one way to increase nato spending
I don’t speak crazy, can someone explain Trumps issue with Greenland to me, thanks
Imo, Greenland has fossil fuel reserves they’re not tapping in order to protect the environment. USA wants the natural resources, but Greenland not being brown people or “the wrong kind of white people”, Greenland a member of NATO, invading Greenland outright risks ww3 without being able to blame anyone other than the USA. I could be wrong, though, I’m not a geopolitics wonk.
Territorialism. He thinks he can just demand Denmark to sell Greenland to him, but neither Denmark nor Greenland are having any of it. Big Baby didn’t think he’d get pushback and does what he does best: get pissed.
Ladies and gentlemen, the United States of America has gone rogue.
I love that the map in the article only labels a few locations, but one of them is the Gulf of Mexico.
Nice subtle dig at the man-baby.
And Panama, and The Panama Canal! ROFL
