Yes, real men, real women, real people of any or no gender, and of all ages, wear diapers. That is not something anyone should be shamed or ridiculed for.
I don’t give a shit if trump or his supporters wear them, they are out there causing actual harm to others, and there is plenty to actually criticise them for, why the fuck resort to this ableist bullshit? We rightfully give them shit for judging others by what’s in their pants, yet gleefully judge them for what they wear under theirs?
Fuck this noise.
It would be much better if the hypocrisy was pointed out in the article. Republicans are responsible for repeatedly taking away protections and supports for the most vulnerable in our society. And most of their voters don’t know or don’t care as long as they’re hurting the right people. This wearing of diapers is a mockery of support for people with disabilities.
The problem is - they don’t give a fuck about the hypocrisy, so all that’s left is the ableism, from both those who regularly harm disabled people ignorantly using diapers to make whatever statement, and those mocking them for wearing them (and no one is going to ask them each individually about their medical needs, so you can never actually know if it is legitimate use or not). The impact remains - adults wearing diapers are the punch line, deepening an already existing and harmful stigma, for no other reason than a cheap and ableist laugh.
I’m sorry you got downvoted because you are calling out a cruel stigma. You are very right and people who suffer from incontinence should not be laughed at. We must offer more dignity and compassion to people.
We’re not the ones resorting to this ableist bullshit, they are. They are the ones wearing diapers and making a mockery out of it. We criticize them for making a mockery out of it simply to emulated someone that makes a mockery out of everything. Do we need to remind everyone of Trump mocking a disabled person on live TV?
Yes, I agree, fuck that noise. But we’re not the ones making that noise.
This. Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues; people gotta learn to keep their targets sighted on the actual scum Insidiously using empathy to cross purposes.
The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.
Don’t tolerate the intolerant; don’t shield them with the benefit of the doubt or stop those with the conviction to stand up for those being told to sit either.
Thank you. I’ve had to explain this paradox to multiple tens of close friends and associates often, and recently.
This is much better worded than any of my attempts. Kudos.
Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues
JFC, so just say you’re an enthusiastic ableist… You honestly don’t deserve any attention beyond that point, but since I’m here, and you’re full of shit, I’ll give it a quick note in case anyone actually buys in to your bad bad take:
The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.
No where do I even imply anything near “don’t punch a Nazi”, what I’m literally saying is “don’t make fun of people for wearing diapers” and “criticise nazis for their nazi actions, not for what they wear”
According to you we should go around making fun of everyone who wears diapers because you can’t think of a better way to tell them apart from fucking Nazis., and also are unable to think of better things to criticise them for, than wearing said diaper.You’re a pathetic ableist joke who clearly cares more about their “right” to abuse disabled people than their duty to do anything against nazis. You’re literally playing their game for them - shifting focus away from them being fascist, right in to the ableist jokes you just find too funny to not participate in, to the point of making the exact same kinds of excuses they do.
Congratulations, you’re on the wrong side, no matter what nonsense you tell yourself to feel better.
But we’re not the ones making that noise.
It was shared for the sole purpose of ridicule. Have you seen some of these fucking comments?? How about instead of getting defensive (and invoking his mockery of disabled people in your defence of… mocking disabled people, who you may not intend to mock, but who you do when you ridicule and stigmatise things they use), just, you know, don’t make fun of medical aids and people who use them, and attack fascists on the grounds of their fucking fascism instead???
I’ve seen the comments, and yes some are low effort ridicule about wearing a diaper. But the majority are ridiculing these people for making a mockery out of wearing a diaper. That’s the difference. There are going to be elements in every group that punch down, but the Trump fans are made up entirely of that element. That’s why they are making a mockery of wearing a diaper in the first place.
Instead of getting defensive, try taking a step back and look at what people are actually doing rather than focusing on the few bad examples and lecturing all of us about being ableist.
Howard Stern took a shit in a diaper on air(or pretended to). I can and will mock him for this. Not because he wore a diaper, but because he wore a diaper when not necessary and made a spectacle of himself.
Donald Trump mocks people for their age even if they’re still able to ride a bike, when he won’t or can’t walk a couple hundred feet with a bunch of other political leaders, while he’s incontinent and his opponent isn’t. I can and will mock him for wearing a diaper, not because it’s ableist, but because he’s a hypocrite and deserves to be called out for it.
I will mock his followers for wearing diapers, again, not because I’m ableist, but because they’re using medical devices when they don’t need to, both making a spectacle of themselves and supporting a hypocrite who makes fun of disabled people. They are deserving of criticism not only for what and who they support, but also how they show that support.
You are absolutely correct. The stupidity here, though, is that word got out that Trump uses them, and that has caused a lot of his supporters to start wearing them, whether they need to or not.
I guess I’m going to hell for laughing at this.
That doesn’t change the impact of participating in and perpetuating this circus.
And so our alternative is…? To ignore this rather quaint sociological phenomenon? To let it pass by, unremarked-upon? Is that how we make increments of improvement to our behavior and culture? What’s the take away? What’s the lesson here for us? How do we be better people when our opponents are literally caricatures of cartoon villains, who, every week, add another hilarious stereotype to their gestalt.
Remember: you’re talking to, and about, the species that is currently exporting a record number of voyeuristic reality shows that sell “engineered awkwardness” because sex doesn’t sell by itself anymore.
How do you un-fuck this up?
Fair enough.
Considering the main attack on Biden from the right is that he is too old, it’s fair game to do the same for Trump. They opened that can of worms.
According to your logic, we not only should be making fun of all old people now, but we should be doing it because trump did it first…
How does that make you any better than them?
Are you really that attached to mocking people for wearing a medical aid, that you seriously can’t put that to one side and criticise them for the actual harm they’re causing?
Remind me again how well “they go low, we go high” worked out for rational, non-insane people in the US?
This is absolutely an example of the paradox of tolerance.
I think it’s less about “going high” than it is not alienating people in your own group. You can’t make fun of disabilities on the other side (with the exception of a clinical lack of empathy) without the collateral damage of also making fun of people on your side with those disabilities.
I don’t think it’s the wearing of nappies that is worthy of ridicule. You are right, it’s a medical question, people who need it should wear it, and everybody else should just stfu about it. (Except perhaps in the odd case when medical conditions do come into question while assessing the fitness of a candidate to an office, especially such a high stakes and demanding one as the potus, but that’s by the by).
What is chilling is the followers of Trump who try to make a virtue out of it. And ridiculous. Laughing at them is the right response because the other option is utter despair.
Nominally, I agree. Trump and his die-hard supporters are the exception.
I understand that there will be splash damage. I regret that there is splash damage. But the fact remains that the objective is to sap support from his base, and from people who are (somehow) on the fence about him. That can be done by sharing these unflattering facts about him.
I get that it’s offensive. Again, I regret that the tactic has become necessary; but it HAS become necessary. This is a “pull out all the stops” situation. If it stops that fascist fuck from winning, I’m willing to live with being labeled as “intolerant” because I used his own tactics against him. I’m not reveling in this, or joyously clowning on those less fortunate than me. There is a specific reason why I’m willing to cross that line, and it’s “we might not have small-d democracy anymore if he wins”.
I understand that there will be splash damage
Heh heh heh heh. Splash damage.
This is so detached from reality. The people who are on the fence will see this as childish, while his supporters are lost enough I don’t think any of them will care.
I’m sorry what? Do you understand the difference between, for example, mocking a blind person for using a cane and wearing dark glasses, and mocking people who think it’s cool and decide to start wearing dark glasses and using a cane while being perfectly sighted? Do you think that is a reasonable thing to do? Do you think it would be ableist to laugh at perfectly able people who are pretending to be disabled?
You’re right. Trump should advocate for people who wear diapers. If he were a leader worth following that is. Let’s see Trump put vanity aside and an embrace his disability for the betterment of all.
At first I found the absurdity silly and amusing.
But then I realized, this is the same demographic that would shoot up a drag show, simply because of men wearing dresses. Now they’re wearing diapers in public support of a convicted rapist that shits himself.
As a trans woman, the thought that they would even wear diapers to justify their hatred of me and love for their incontinent idol, it is disgusting. I’m literally nauseous right now, they think people like me are beneath an actual man baby.
It’s literal cult behavior.
Stay safe, sister.
These guys weren’t against wearing diapers to begin with. They were at least curious about it, or even desperate to finally try it in public. Maybe being out as their true selves will help them develop emotionally a bit. I support more MAGAs wearing their diapers in public spaces.
Conservatives. Shitting their pants to own the libs.
They finally did it.
Never, ever, say “you can’t get any dumber than that”… these morons take it as a challenge.
You can’t get dumber than that
(I want to see them get dumber)
okay. so I take that as permission to send them your way to be dealt with?
Fair enough lol
Give it 5 minutes.
Our culture promotes a climate of toxicity toward intellectually disabled people, and part of that is in the words we use. By condoning the casual use of ableist slurs, we tacitly permit more severe abuses. Because we undermine the people, we also undermine accountability for their abusers. We fail to construct a healing path forward.
The frustration that we feel over bigotry can be expressed in so many ways. We don’t need to rely on ableist slurs. Alternative phrases are more descriptive, and more accurate; unintelligence is not the prevailing problem with right wing extremists, for instance, nor is it the cause of their actions. Ignorance, prejudice, and disregard for the rights of others are.
Conflating harmful actions with lack of intelligence does everyone a disservice. To suggest that “stupidity” that is what makes people act badly undermines any real accountability. The causes of problematic behavior rarely have anything to do with mental acuity, and we can’t properly address harmful behavior while being so reductive about its causes. Carelessness, bias, hatred, greed, closed-mindedness, indifference – these are the traits that lead to oppression. Our intelligence is not the issue so much as our sense of compassion and justice.
A person can be unintelligent and still know right from wrong. There are people with cognitive disabilities who I respect a thousand times more than those who are supposedly more abled. They have stronger principles, seek to better themselves, and are committed to being good people. They are just capable of being sensitive and caring as everyone else. To imply that they aren’t is outrageous.
I get it. Changing the way we speak is really tough. Words are the fabric of our thoughts. Re-forming the words that we use means reshaping our minds. But that’s exactly why it’s so necessary and so potent. Just as we cannot shape a new society without fully deconstructing the old, we cannot liberate our minds without dismantling the ways we think and communicate.Thank you
The next 1/6 insurrection in 2025 will consist of hundreds of diapered men smearing the walls with shit. That dude that smeared his shit on the wall at the inaugural insurrection of '20 is gonna think he started a ‘movement’
A bowel movement if you will…
Coming this Superbowel Sunday!
omg.
I saw someone comment the other day that his idiot followers were saying that, but assumed it was satire (what little shreds of satire still exist thanks to the clown pictured here).
“Four legs good, two legs better.”
Diaper Donald lol
Satire is dead
Long live satire.
Real men perform innumerable felonies, publicly declare their participation in them, avoid taking the advice of lawyers and in fact actively fight them and the judge at every turn, and nap during their trial. Real men serve out their sentences in silence and, where appropriate, avoid voting thanks to their felony charges. They’d be such badasses, the truest Americans if they followed through with the full lifestyle.
“Hey look Happy peed his pants!”
“All the cool kids pee their pants!”
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis!
A couple of years ago, there were memes about this exact thing to mock this cult. I didn’t think the day would actually come, but some part of me is really happy that it did.
“If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.”
I wonder how trump would feel in solitary confinement for the rest of his life, never hearing another person’s voice except his own until he dies. He deserves it. Not unusual punishment based off how other prisoners in Hamburgerland are treated. Even as his Alzheimers worsens.
Trump already doesn’t listen to any voice but his own.
Wow, this is fucking desperate
I wonder what Kaitlin Bennett’s perspective is on all this.
