but have you tried being poor in America?

… have you?

Jesus Christ.

I live well-under the poverty line. It’s bad. I also know it’s nowhere near as bad as an average existence in Cuba.

Read up. Read personal accounts. Check economic statistics.

Just by living in the US, we are immensely fucking privileged.

This is one of them classic, body-horror angels

hongry

Are you kidding ??? What the **** are you talking about man ?

They’re such adorable little genetic dead-ends!

[Pug noise]

It is a bit disturbing that we bred a dog variant with the ability to scream.

What a strange thing to block someone over?

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Boethiah

Things Fall Apart

Now on my to-read list!

Depends on where you put them. INT 1 guy may not know where they go

Also you can max out skills even at INT 1 pretty quickly

Pug Zen

This is a bit dramatized especially with “fucking children”. I’d like to see sources to back up such emotional claims, especially the chest-thumping parts eg. “Not own their children”. Families lived together and children weren’t treated like chattel. You exaggerated here.

“They weren’t chattel slaves, their children were just bound to lord and land in perpetuity”

Cool cool cool

“Nearly half of your working days” is an overstatement and labor obligations were typically 2–3 days a week plus extra during harvest (boon days).

Sunday off, at least pro forma.

Would you like to remind me what percentage 3 is of 6.

Enclosing timing and large-scale commons stripping were much more severe in the 15th–16th centuries than the 14th. While some pressures started in the late 13th, it wasn’t yet widespread.

“It was more severe later” doesn’t at all modify the point.

I can see why you had to be pressured to write a complete response.

I can see why you didn’t address the vast majority of my points, and why the points you did address, you did so without strong arguments.

They do say doctors make the worst patients…

Puddle of bird

ha ha yeah 700 ELO look at those midwits

(hides sub-200 ELO)

Don’t believe I’ve, personally, received those either.

Many would own neither their land nor their hovel. The lucky ones would own themselves, at least; the unlucky ones would not only not own themselves nor their hovel, but also not own their own fucking children - nearly half of England’s population was unfree. Of the free half, a majority of them would not have owned any land in any real sense. They lived on their lord’s sufferance.

Their access to the commons was dependent on the goodwill of their local lord, and, indeed, as the 14th century comes into play, that access is stripped as soon as it becomes more profitable for the local lord to sell the rights off.

10% of their harvest would go to the Church alone - not optional. Much more would go to their local lord simply for the privilege of existing - around 25% if you were free, closer to 50% if you were unfree. And that’s not getting into various other taxes, such as for anything sold, or to get permission to marry. And if you were unfree, you’d owe nearly half of your working days to your lord’s needs - without any recompense, in money or produce. On top of that, many taxes levied were irregular - ie whenever your lord thought he could get away with it.

I mean, I agree, but beef consumption in the US has dropped in the past 20 years. And you can find similar price stories for all meal prices, regardless of ingredients.

Uh, I’ve never recieved gore or child porn on here at all

Not even close.