I use FB because my family is on their.
My feed is almost entirely not my family, but “suggested” posts, and it made me realize I really hope something becomes popular to replace FB next and my family moves there.
What type of site do you hope becomes popular on the fediverse next?
I’d really like for PeerTube to take off, especially with how YouTube/Google seem to be escalating the war on adblockers.
Fun fact, video files are extremely big and cost money to host. It’s a neat idea but will never be scalable in the same way that YouTube is without some form of monetization
why peer to peer wouldn’t be scalable for this?
For not popular Videos you could have the same system as private trackers to encourage people to seed those videos.
peertube uses torrents
Yes, and torrents only work because they are relatively unpopular. You reach a certain scale and proportion of people who would rather just freeload than seed gets too big
i don’t think you understand how the torrenting works or why i raised it as a solution to the storage/bandwidth problem.
I do understand how torrenting works, it only works because the total amount of upload bandwidth being made available is enough to satisfy the demand for download bandwidth. As you get to larger and larger groups of users, the proportion of people willing to seed after their download finishes drops.
Also keep in mind that most ISPs give their users extremely low upload bandwidth relative to their download pipe, and you have an poorly scalable solution. At least if you’re talking anywhere within a few orders of magnitude of what YouTube handles.
peertube has everyone currently watching a video join the swarm. you just don’t seem to understand why we keep raising peertube and torrenting in the same sentence
Everyone currently watching the video will not have enough total upload bandwidth to support the download demand, especially when you move to resolutions higher than 1080
While I think the concept of BitTorrent to handle distributed storage is a good line of thinking, I have a feeling keeping seeders alive.
I kind of wish for Pied Piper from Silicon Valley. Distributed sharding with p2p distribution. I can only speak for myself, but my phone has more storage than I would ever need, and T-Mobile 5G is unlimited, just cache the video content as and my phone can serve chunks as a temp seeder until I need that space for new content. With enough people contributing the space needed per person could be negligible. Extending to a federated backend protocol, selfhosters to large organization could contribute block storage as things scale. BBC just started exploring Mastodon. If there was a viable video platform for BBC, their resources would help establish large collective pools of data.
Just keep it a completely open source standard, very strong encryption/compression and wide duplicated sharding across devices. I absolutely hate blockchain hype, but an actual use case would be a blockchain index of where each chunk of information resides.
All of that totally hypothetical, that’s just my “throw shit at the wall” idea for a federated solution. Initial adoption would probably never succeed. Just like in the show, things are getting to incredibly complex solutions once federated networks come into play, explaining it to not computer oriented people would be neigh impossible.
Okay and? Like, you’ve listed the problem, which I think was already known to anyone passionate enough to care about PeerTube and to want it to grow, do you have any ideas or solutions or are you only here to demoralize and discourage?
They are escalating n paying customers too…
Imagine paying 15 bucks for something having their shit shoved up your ass without consent, audio is compressed junk. They turn off 4k randomly etc…
They don’t pay for any content really either just serving ads to plebs and booking profits… How are they not making money?
A discogs replacement would be cool, or an etsy replacement that lets you list your wares for sale and take XMR/BTC, paypal, and all those cashapp things, etc.
I’m not really a fan of BTC becoming more wide spread. I’d prefer something more akin to GNU Taler.
Well then you don’t have to accept it, but it’s already widespread enough that it should be included, especially when privacy is less of a concern than buying drugs with XMR. I should note that the marketplace idea would be limited to legal items of course. Taler is cool, but not anonymous for both parties like XMR, I’m not saying don’t use it, but add it to the list rather than use Taler exclusively. No reason to not take multiple forms of payment and each “store” could choose what it accepts all the way from mailed cash to live chickens (figuratively, idk how that’d work logistically lol).
I should note that the marketplace idea would be limited to legal items of course.
How? There’s no way babysitting something like this to keep it to legal stuff wouldn’t be be a full-time multi-person job, and that’s before even starting to consider different legalities for different places.
I mean easy, if you see a listing for “heroin” on your instance, ban the acct, hell report their IP if you want. This isn’t alphabay, there are already better marketplaces for heroin. To your point, how does lemmy exist with CSAM, isn’t that a full time job?
So people selling drugs will just call them something that isn’t filtered or known to all the squares, just like they have done for decades on Craigslist.
It’s easy to say a marketplace app will be limited to legal stuff, but making that happen in reality is no simple prospect and federating it won’t make it any simpler.
Guess we need to shut down every marketplace ever IRL and online then.
My god I would love to have some version of facebook without suggested content.
I was looking at Facebook the other day, first time in a while, and the amount of suggested content just in the feed is ridiculous. And my feed kept showing different stuff any time I reloaded, so I have no idea if I missed any updates from anyone I actually care about. It’s just so shit.
Non-stable content pisses me off. If I refresh the same URL in something like the same time period, I should get the exact same content.
Being unable to backtrack and end up where I was makes me anxious.
I know Mastodon is more like Twitter but, I feel like it could also replace much of Facebooks functions too?
What is up with Facebook being soooooo bad like that. Its just constant suggested shit of shitty videos and ads.
I hate myself every time I open it. But I habitually do so due to dropping Reddit and this has annoyingly become my next dopamine hit.
Just go back to reddit at that point
A federated SoundCloud would be nice, especially SC became paywalled
There is Funkwhale that you can use for self-publishing music. You can also upload your music library privately to listen to remotely.
i just want to see a bunch of random visualizers and shaders, generative art gifs blasted in my face like the old /r/woahdude
Not sure if it counts but more BookWyrm style services like IMDb, Discogs, etc.
I would love to see funkwhale or another soundcloud fedi clone become more popular.
I actually wrote a prototype for an IPFS-based FB replacement. It… kinda worked. I could get posts to share some of the time, but I reached a point where I realized I’d need to rip out a bunch of my backend and start over to fix it and I just didn’t have it in me at that time.
Since then, however, a new IPFS framework has come out that’ll replace a lot of the crappy code I’d written for interfacing with IPFS. I’m thinking of blowing off the dust and trying again.
A solid equivalent to AskReddit would be nice. I know a lot have tried but they’re all too small at this point
more integrated events with management, so many thing happen on facebook because of event fuctionality
Hey Rev! Long time no see, hope you’ve been doing well!
Deeper intergration with p2p file sharing\streaming-oriented sites and protocols, e.g. torrents, but decentralized too. Think like Blizzard with their p2p acceleration of downloads using other people’s downloaded game. Basically, making your own PC a source of content for those accesing instance. May probably ease traffic reqs for instances and make them more reliable under ddos.
Infrastructure for old-fashioned game servers’ communities, like those for Minecraft. Login with your fediverse account, one-click joining server, creating federated networks of them with theoretical migration of progress\playtime\achievements. It can make this way of multiplayer gaming convinient again. Yet again, it needs specifically tailored games\clients.
Mapping and geocaching communities. A network of overlaying local map-canvases that people can interact with by adding favorite routes, comments, points of interest.
Books and articles shared between repositories of different universities\libraries.
Friendica is 13 years old, but it takes a lot to get people to leave what they’re comfortable with.
