thats the crux of the issue. Words can be weapons. And kirk wielded them as such.
Did Hitler ever kill anyone directly, with his own hands? Or was it his words?
edit. Im not comparing kirk to hitler; i am not suggesting kirk was becoming hitler or anything like that. It is solely an example of when “you use nothing but words”, and many people die. WORDS ARE WEAPONS. Rhetoric kills people
This is why they’re so desperate to destroy the school system. These “I’m not touching you” types of defenses don’t work against anyone with a HS diploma or a basic understanding of history
Exactly. Hitler never killed anyone himself, but his rhetoric is directly responsible for the murder of tens of millions.
If you take a gas tanker and spray down the lawn and outside of the white house, and something else causes a spark that turns the entire place into an inferno, you didn’t start the fire. That doesn’t mean the fire would have still happened without your actions.
Hitler ordered killings under his authority, absolutely. That healthcare CEO is a much better comparison to when people immediately die as a result of your direct actions and authority to order people to follow through.
It’s not the same. Claiming every racist, bigot, homophobe that opens their mouth is akin to Hitler and therefore can be summarily executed is not an argument that is going to win anyone over outside of lemmy and by the time Stephen Miller is ACTUALLY ordering killings and the public might actually support violent push back you’ll all already be in jail for terrorism and mass murdering YouTubers and even then nobody will feel bad about it.
How else to respond to justifying murdering someone based on “words can be weapons” and the genuine support for that sentiment here? I’m only addressing the inevitable outcome of those who’d actually take that line of thinking to its inevitable conclusion, and if it seems absurd then put a bit more thought into who you think deserves to die because that’s where this path leads.
That’s good, but most here feel the murder was justified and their rationale is the same. I hope they’ll also consider your clarification with due regard.
thats the crux of the issue. Words can be weapons. And kirk wielded them as such.
Did Hitler ever kill anyone directly, with his own hands? Or was it his words?
edit. Im not comparing kirk to hitler; i am not suggesting kirk was becoming hitler or anything like that. It is solely an example of when “you use nothing but words”, and many people die. WORDS ARE WEAPONS. Rhetoric kills people
This is why they’re so desperate to destroy the school system. These “I’m not touching you” types of defenses don’t work against anyone with a HS diploma or a basic understanding of history
Exactly. Its standard bully behavior and way too many people fall for it.
Exactly. Hitler never killed anyone himself, but his rhetoric is directly responsible for the murder of tens of millions.
If you take a gas tanker and spray down the lawn and outside of the white house, and something else causes a spark that turns the entire place into an inferno, you didn’t start the fire. That doesn’t mean the fire would have still happened without your actions.
Pol Pot killed 30% of the nation using words.
“I was only giving orders!”
“I am not violent. I simply said that all those people should be exterminated.”
Hitler ordered killings under his authority, absolutely. That healthcare CEO is a much better comparison to when people immediately die as a result of your direct actions and authority to order people to follow through.
It’s not the same. Claiming every racist, bigot, homophobe that opens their mouth is akin to Hitler and therefore can be summarily executed is not an argument that is going to win anyone over outside of lemmy and by the time Stephen Miller is ACTUALLY ordering killings and the public might actually support violent push back you’ll all already be in jail for terrorism and mass murdering YouTubers and even then nobody will feel bad about it.
I was ready to upvote this but you kinda went off the rails at the end lol
How else to respond to justifying murdering someone based on “words can be weapons” and the genuine support for that sentiment here? I’m only addressing the inevitable outcome of those who’d actually take that line of thinking to its inevitable conclusion, and if it seems absurd then put a bit more thought into who you think deserves to die because that’s where this path leads.
At no point did I ever justify murder.
We can discuss how words can be used to inflict violence. And draw upon historical figures as examples of when that has literally happened.
I never said he deserved to die. I am arguing with the articles wording of “he only ever used words”, which glosses over what those words were
That’s good, but most here feel the murder was justified and their rationale is the same. I hope they’ll also consider your clarification with due regard.