• Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz
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    22 days ago

    I’ve often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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      21 days ago

      I always thought there should be an “unlimited class” in the olympics where you can take anything you want. I want to see wildly drugged up athletes competing with each other.

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      22 days ago

      Cheaters also are part of why I like coop games so much more. Join a random game with a cheater, doesn’t matter too much and you can leave. Play with a group of friends and that also goes a long way to eliminating them.

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      22 days ago

      GTA Online does (did?) this, most cheating wouldn’t get you banned and instead just placed in cheater lobbies.

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        22 days ago

        Rockstar botched that system, I can attest as I used numerous different mod menus on GTA V Online, most well developed menus will let you alter yours (and others) in-game reputation by spamming the commend/report functions.

        Spawning in UFO’s an such was the highlight of GTA V Online for me, haven’t touched the game since I moved to Linux, I hear it’s broken due to the new anti-cheat.

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                21 days ago

                GTA is a disgusting franchise

                Because of this nobody noticed how woke GTA:SA was. If you depicted the CIA smuggling cocaine and weapons into black communities while the justice system imprisons young black men with wildly disparate sentencing 2025, the game would be canceled, by the kind of chuds who just see “cool violence!”

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                  21 days ago

                  San Andreas was the wokest of them all, but GTA V is pretty woke too. Your main enemies are three letter agencies, the in-universe equivalent of Blackwater/Academi/XE (legit their GTA name has been consistent for longer than their real names at this point, might as well call them real life Merriweather) and you pull a hit on an asshole tech CEO, a tobacco company CEO, etc. But then, GTA V has also been out for over a decade now.

                  I hope they keep the theme going with the next one. Show it all as a bunch of “cool violence” while beneath the surface it’s critique of consumerism, government overreach and society in general.

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    21 days ago

    I really hope valve can get VAC into a good space so it can be an example of doing anti-cheat well without having to be a rootkit. Looks like we’re heading towards that point. Hopefully this change will last

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      21 days ago

      John Macdonald is cooking the best fucking server-sided anticheat with all that compute power in Bellevue. Lets see him become a master chef!

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        21 days ago

        I’ve been thinking for a while we need more server side stuff. No worries about infringing on the consumers computer then. Hopefully that ends up becoming something good!

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    22 days ago

    OMG thank God, finally VAC is working??? The cheating was getting so bad. I kick and report people as much as I can but it felt like it never did anything.

    Knowing this, I am not as upset about getting caught in the crossfire the other day. VAC flagged my game session after like 2 seconds and I had to reinstall completely.

    I should go read some of these cheater forums and maybe talk a little shit. Little fuckers.

    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      21 days ago

      During a GDC conference held by John Macdonald (Engineer largely in the data side of Valve’s affairs), he stated that the training of VACnet was largely a “war of datasets”, and he expected the quality to improve as time went on and Valve labelled and processed more internal data for their anticheat.

      Considering the leak for “referring to your training manual” for the employee-access version of Overwatch match reporting for CS2 might be an indicator that they were labelling the data the whole time with contractors. Now seems to be the release moment :)

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    21 days ago

    Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone’s done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.

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    21 days ago

    Ha! Get fucked, losers. Cheaters ruin the fun for everyone, so I hope every last one gets permabanned.

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      21 days ago

      You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn’t have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

      As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn’t a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

      • groet@feddit.org
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        21 days ago

        When you suspect someone of being highly dangerous you put them in jail even if they are not convicted yet. And when it turns out they are innocent they are released.

        A ban is like jail not like a death sentence …