• TheInfinityMachine@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    Before, I definitely would have said no. Working toward a nuke free world was going to get humans past the Great Filter. After understanding how susceptible humans are to propaganda, seeing how much more our technology is growing than our collective humanity, witnessing a small group of rich people use entire populations like they are nonsentient resources, and watching the USA power walk towards facisim… we are not going to make it past the Great Filter. Unfortunately it is starting to become more viable that longest lasting peace our species could hope to achieve comes from the fear of mutually assured destruction. All in all, I am no longer against the thought of it at all, especially after seeing how that worked out for Ukraine.

    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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      Our collective humanity hasn’t grown at all in 100k years. It isn’t growing.

      We have constantly evolving social norms and rules, but these things are now struggling to keep up with mass communications technology. Also people’s susceptibility to cognitive biases is really showing its ugly side these days.

    • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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      Working toward a nuke free world was going to get humans past the Great Filter

      Ironically, I’m increasingly of the opinion that the Great Filter will turn out to be Ignorance; more specifically, greed, stupidity and humankind’s more selfish nature delaying positive change long enough for climate change to wipe us out.

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        I don’t think any of these issues will wipe us out completely. Maybe they’ll reduce the population by 99% but that still leaves 80 million people, enough to raise a new society from the ashes of this one.

        Anyway ignorance, greed, stupidity, and selfishness are not specialities of the human race. They’re common to all animals.

        Our unique problem is that we’ve created an environment which is radically different to the one in which we evolved. Look at one simple dimension: food. We evolved to survive scarcity and famine. Our new extreme abundance of food is killing us with obesity. We’ve cracked the code on the molecules our brains used to detect nutritious food and used them to engineer fast food that is addictive like a drug.

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        And for the few that remain, history gets lost.

        The notions of it being the same cycle again and again seem not too far fetched, now.

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      we are not going to make it past the Great Filter

      Yeah. Most likely not. We’ve only had the ability to actually extinct ourselves for a very short period of time and we’ve already used nuclear weapons on civilian populations and threatened to use them repeatedly ever since. It’s only a matter of time.

      When one flies, they all start flying. And if we don’t do it that way, we’ll simply burn up all the resources this planet provides and pollute the fuck out of our ecosystem.

      I’ll hold out a glimmer of hope, just cuz everyone likes rooting for the underdog, but realistically, the human species is probably just a temporary thing in the big picture.