• HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee
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    15 hours ago

    The point you seem to be missing is that you’re using the actions of ten to condemn the whole party, which isn’t reasonable.

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      14 hours ago

      I don’t accept excuses. It should have been zero. democrats expect unthinking lockstep from their voters no matter what they do, so I expect them to vote with the party.

      All of them.

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              13 hours ago

              If democrats just accept that they’re going to have turncoats in the legislature, they don’t get to demand perfect lockstep from voters. They can’t keep control of a couple hundred people, but expect to scold millions into voting for them no matter what they do.

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                4 hours ago

                When do Democrats “demand perfect lockstep?”

                How is it possible to demand that of the average person, who votes about once every two years?

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                  3 hours ago

                  We’re going to nominate someone who does things you find abhorrent. We will put all our resources into making certain that no one who prioritizes what you prioritize makes it through the primaries, and not really give much of a shit about the general. We will shout abuse at you for all criticism, demand but never think of earning your vote, and blame you every time we lose, regardless of how you vote.

                  We will fervently and lovingly kiss the asses of the worst republicans of the previous decades just to gloat about how far to the right we’ve taken the party.

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                    3 hours ago

                    When has any leading Democrat “shouted abuse” at the voting public?

                    You seem to taking the unpopularity of your politics very personally and blaming the Democratic Party as an institution - as opposed to the majority of Americans, who just don’t agree with you.