I’ve seen many threads suggesting products but they often don’t mention FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software. With FOSS you are already boycotting capitalism, on either side. Free and Open Source ignores borders and shouldn’t be categorized in nationalist terms, no matter where some of the maintainers happen to live.

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    The majority of Americans are great people

    They’re not the majority if they can’t win an election — just sayin’.

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      a minority of the population voted for trump though, it’s not like 50+% of the total population voted for him, it’s 50+% of the voters, a lot of people just didn’t vote.

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        a lot of people just didn’t vote.

        So they decided that it was just fine if he won and saw no reason to oppose what he stands for…

        Yeah, that’s some good people right there I can see that /s

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          Voter ID, gerrymandering, not allowing absentee voting, no day off.

          Not everyone was able to vote, and that disproportionately affected Democratic voters.

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            All true. But the world also watched a huge amount of voters rejects dems over gaza. While trump had no better plans on gaxa.

            Much like Ukraine his only argument is “i am better and every one else was stupid”

            The argument often heard. “Voting the lesser of 2 evils is still voting evil”.

            So yes these folks very much voted the greater of 2 evils by refusing to vote the lesser option. And much of the rest of the world is rightfully sorta pissed at the evil they allowed in.

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              Maybe a system that regularly gives us “evil vs lesser evil but still evil” as our only options isn’t worth saving

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                Sorta like the trolly problem.

                You can flip the lever to kill 5 or 1. But if you choose not to and also don’t fucking bother to hit the breaks. Your still responsible for killing 5 instead of 1.

                If you are not willing to actually stop the evil fai.ing to selects make you the bigger evil.

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                  I actually hate how the trolley problem is misinterpreted. It’s not a question of “will you kill one person or kill 5?”. If you pull the lever, you are murdering somebody. If you do nothing, you killed no one, whoever put them on the tracks killed them. Whether it’s morally acceptable to murder one person in order to save 5 is an interesting thought experiment but that’s all it is.

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                    Amd its not misinterpreted. The whole point of using the trolly problem is as an example as it was designed. Thought experiments are there to help you interpret real actions by simplifying them. Not to be ignored as pointless.

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                    You are still the one making the choice.

                    Hence why the trolly problem is equivalent to a political vote. Not voting has the same effect as not making a choice between one or 5.

                    If you are there before they get tied to the track you do more. But that is not the situation you are in on election day.

                    On election day its to late to change candidates. Just as its to late to try and untie the victims. If you do not have correct of the breaks or the ability to stop the trolly on time.

                    Your only option is to choose or not to choose the lesser of 2 evils.

                    Failing to choose is no less evil then choosing the worst.

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                    I do imagine the thought experiment is more meaningful to those on the dying end, I’ll give you that.

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          “Great people on both sides,” as a very stable genius put it 🙄

          Either way, this is probably OT for an open source thread…

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        Fair enough. I’m still smarting from that election result, all the way across the pond.

        On the other side, I don’t count people as “great” who can’t be bothered voting against bigoted authoritarianism. But different strokes, I’m sure.

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          the us electoral system is designed around preventing BIPOCs from voting especially in the southern states. You have to do a lot of paperwork to get into the system and sometimes you get kicked out of the system by arbitrary rules without being notified. You also have to vote at the place assigned to your part of town, or in some cases miles away, The place often is systematically understaffed in poor neighborhoods which means huge lines, also the vote is held during work hours and many more things.