• Venator@lemmy.nz
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    22 hours ago

    Not quite, they would’ve been implying someone was ableist, not anyone in particular.

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      19 hours ago

      Did you not read the text in the tags?

      one time i talked about the weather to someone i didn’t know that well

      and later that night i checked their twitter and they were vagueing abt me being ableist bc ‘i forced them to do small talk’

      We have the author, and a specific, other person, the person the author talked about the weather to, whom the author knows the twitter handle of.

      Again, the author states:

      they were vagueing abt me

      abt is shorthand for about.

      they were vagueing about me

      The ‘vagueing’ is directed at the author, according to author.

      Is it theoretically possible that some other person asked twitter person about the weather, temporally near when the author did, and the author is mistaken?

      Sure.

      … And also, no, you can’t meet my girlfriend, she goes to another school, and yes I can get your Xbox Live account banned, my dad works at Microsoft.

      You can’t prove those things aren’t true, so if you challenge me on that, that means you don’t trust me and that means you’re a bad friend.

      Now I’m gonna post “Boy it sure is disheartening when your friends question everything you ever say to them” on twitter.

      … See how this works?

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        18 hours ago

        That wouldn’t be vaguing if that was the case, it would be specifically implying.

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          11 hours ago

          So, are you telling me that the author used vagueing incorrectly?

          Or are you telling me that my translation, which did correctly translate what the author wrote, is incorrect?

          Doesn’t really matter, you’d be incorrect either way.

          A way that person A can imply something about person B, is to describe person B, or something person B did, without directly naming person B.

          Whenever person A ‘does a vagueing’ about person B, they are intentionally referencing person B, but in an indirect manner.

          https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imply

          imply

          transitive verb

          : to express indirectly

          Her remarks implied a threat.

          The news report seems to imply his death was not an accident.

          This means the implied object of the person A’s vagueing is person B, as opposed to person B being the outright stated, directly specified object.

          This means when they are indirectly talking about person B without directly mentioning them, they are implying that they are talking about person B, they’re just doing so in a manner that allows for plausible deniability if actually directly asked who they are talking about.

          https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Vagueing

          Vagueing

          Posting or talking about drama without naming the specific details.

          “Lindsay just tweeted ‘no tears left to cry over you b’”

          “OMG no way, she’s totally vagueing about Connor”

          The entire point of vagueing / vagueposting is to passive aggressively complain about a person / event whilst also setting up a plausible deniability defense, so that the vagueposter can gaslight anyone who wants to clarify what the object of their vaguepost was.

          Linguistically, ‘vagueing about’ is itself a less active voiced and less direct way of saying ‘implying’.

          Its akin to ‘the cop shot the dog’ vs ‘the dog was killed by gunfire from the cop’.

          The entire construction makes the person who did the implying, did the vagueing, less directly connected to the object they were making implications, or vagueing, about.

          In that sense, vagueing is an even more vague amd indorect term to use than implying.

          Bottom line:

          Ableism Accuser is implying Tumblr Poster is ableist by vagueing about Tumblr Poster.

          They are indirectly complaining about and accusing them, by not specifically directing the complaint and accusation at Tumblr Poster by name.

          Vagueing / vagueposting is always, necessarily, also implying, always involves implying… because all these terms refer to speaking about a specific person, action, event, thing… indirectly, without full detail.