• electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    The US has always been a piece of shit, and since WW2 has been the single biggest threat actor in the world. For a time, we managed to maintain a strong economy and generally cohesive body politic at home, but those have been steadily eroding. Any of the “good times” you can remember were at best, squandered opportunities to effect real changes that may have prevented the situation we are no waking up to.

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      Don’t forget this either:

      We weren’t some benevolent force for good in WW2. People love pointing it out as if we proactively fought for good.

      The Axis thankfully committed the greatest strategic blunder of the 20th century hands down and sunk our Naval fleet. They brought the fight to us. The US was quite fond of eugenics and practiced it in asylum before and after WW2.

      We fought back. That isn’t being a hero, that isn’t coming to save the day. That’s self-preservation.

      The closest we’ve ever been to the good guys was at our founding, and even that was complicated.

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        23 hours ago

        It is far far worse than this. Wealthy people in the US bankrolled the Nazi party. We created the problem. When the Nazi approached the nations of the world to take in the Jews before the final solution these same people lobbied to make sure no one would take them.

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          7 hours ago

          The German aristocracy bankrolled Hitler as well. It sorta sounded like you were implying that didn’t happen

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            6 hours ago

            Sure they did, the issue is they didn’t have the money to make it happen. It would be very interesting to see who gave the most money to the Nazis. I am guessing US citizens were the largest contributor, but without any actual data it is just an educated guess.

            This only goes to highlight how wealth inequality has created the environment for some of the worst atoricities. Why is it the wealthy seem to help start, fund, and benefit from all our modern wars.

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        23 hours ago

        To be fair: The US did join the European theater despite having their hands full across the Pacific.

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        1 day ago

        Yeah the US joined late. I’m just saying that since then, the US hasn’t even done anything accidentally good.