What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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    People demanding better is not a side, and thus cannot win. The let’s not bomb kids side has zero power. Your choice is between bombing kids and bombing more kids. Enabling the bombing more kids side means your fake morals outweigh the sloppy real-world political situation that actually exists.

    Your house is on fire. You are standing equidistant from a full petrol can and a bucket of water, and you’re deciding not to act because neither is the perfect solution.

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        Okay, whatever, while you’re planning your grand revolution thing can you please for fucks sake vote for the option that kills fewer kids?

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            The two party system is, it doesn’t need my support and your abstaining from participation will not harm it. The two party system will chug merrily along until Republicans end democracy.

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                It’s only pointless if you don’t care who wins. Voting won’t change the two party system, at least not directly and not any time soon. It will change who wins this November, and that’s a very important thing.

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      Or work with us to pick a different candidate.

      Make clear we won’t stand for him and that their only option is to run a new candidate.

      As long as you keep giving them what they want, they won’t change

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        Name one candidate with the name recognition to win who has also expressed an interest in running in 2024.

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          Ah, there’s the rub isn’t it, they wont run another candidate because everyone is supposed to just fall I. Line.

          Run Whitmer, she did great things in WI

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            And conspiracy theories, like it always boils down to. “They” lol.

            Whitmer would be sending aid to Israel. Every politician would.

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              Then we pick someone who wouldn’t.

              Would it be difficult? Yes

              Would it have a chance to fail? Yes

              Would the stakes be high? Yes

              Would it be the most American fucking thing to do, to stand up for what is right instead of easy, to protect those who need it most, to take the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, and to stand shield for them? Yes

              Fuck Nationalism in all its evilness, instead let’s be what we said we would be and start fucking actually working towards it.

              Let’s live up to that, instead of aiming for mediocrity.

              America is at its best when it’s the underdog.

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                Very convenient that your all-American idiot plan almost certainly hands a win to Putin-loving Republicans 😂

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                  Not if y’all would just work with us!!! All we are asking is that you stand up and say “This is too far”, if he actually changed we could talk about keeping him around, right now we could be preparing his replacement in case he doesn’t.

                  If he does good enough then we still have him, if not he says I’m out and then we push the new one.

                  Let’s be real, most people are idiots who will vote whatever name has a D next to it

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                    Apparently not, world would be a better place if they did.

                    The primary was your chance to put up a better candidate. You didn’t. You don’t have the numbers to beat Biden in the primary, but you do have the numbers to give us Trump.