This might just be the push I need to switch to Linux desktop.
Do it. With proton the last argument for me to use windows is gone (gaming).
Can you run Adobe software via proton? As soon as that works I’ll be on Linux.
Look at your usecase, if it really requires adobe suite, you are out of luck i’m afraid. Perhaps you could research running a VM or wine, but I havent tried any of that myself.
If you conclude that you dont need features exclusive to adobe you might be able to find a foss alternative.
roblox:
I spent the last ~10 days “playing” with many distros, including testing some current games, and I am literally right now backing up my files and about to reformat my main PC to linux (full drive, no dual). This is after only having experience with copy-paste Raspberry PI guides for my pi-hole.
Don’t totally believe “oh it’s so easy, nothing to configure” - those people are lying, especially if you’ve not used Linux before. But several flavors of Ubuntu are quite pleasant, and I appear to have found a home with PopOS. I can’t find anything that “doesn’t work”, and the worst fixes were just quick searches for help. PopOS won due to nvidia compatibility and a nice, snappy desktop. It also was the fastest in overall reformat cycle time. My wife’s computer is still Windows, if I do have any microsoft emergencies.
Congrats on picking an awesome distro! :) Pop is really nice, and I’m really excited to see what they do with their desktop environment. I feel like we’re spoiled for choice right now on Linux.
There are always things to configure, just like on Windows. I think some people kind of forget that they had to learn to configure things on Windows at one point. xD
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is rather easy.
But anyway, no mainstream user-friendly Linux distribution is that hard to use if you can read and think.
So when people say that they can’t manage one on their desktop - they also usually can’t manage Windows on their desktop, they just think they can.
About a month ago Windows 11 started forcing ads for apps and services I didn’t need. Immediately installed a popular Linux distribution to have some peace of mind. There’s every flavor of desktop out there. I picked one for work and games (pop_os). It’s out of my way most of the time and it’s not trying to sell me anything. I recommend it, specially, if you’re someone that doesn’t fiddle with settings too much, it just work.
if you’re using windows in 2023, I doubt it
I use Windows, macOS, and Linux, but all in separate ways. Haven’t used a desktop Linux in quite some time — only headless Linux servers.
Why? I switched to Linux in 2023.
Well in that case I might replace windows 12 with not using windows 12
Im 70% sure I’m replacing wins 11 with Linux already so join us
A few weeks ago when they made the search bar come back after I had told it to go away I switched to Linux. It’s weird the small annoyances that add up. It’s great so far. With KDE for the desktop environment, you can make it look however you want, including almost identical to any version of windows you want. It’s really quite usable, and generally I’m already faster and more comfortable with it than I was with windows.
XP gang
Botnet gang :/
Yeah, don’t use old versions of Windows (or any OS really). Upgrade to Win 10/11 or install Linux (or something else that’s supported).
I love this idea. The reason people continue using Windows is because they’re used to it. Messing with the Start button is going to piss off even the most patient users. Not to mention it’ll be an absolute nightmare for any IT department. Just imagine an army of Karens calling your hotline first thing on Monday morning, yelling at you because you took away the Start button. It’ll make Windows 8 look like a huge success.
I feel like things like Classic Shell (or whatever the go-to alternative is nowadays) are just going to make bank from enterprise customers suddenly wanting to make their desktops usable for the average user.
Doubtful. It’s hard enough to get programs past our security team and having half malware bundled programs like this won’t be an easy task.
Lol, what? There is no malware in classic shell, or start11 or explorer patcher. Wtf are you talking about?
Tell that to dumbass IT “managers” that think a process monitor is a hacking tool.
i remember some game refusing to launch just because i had it installed
Openshell on github. I don’t know that it’s the same code, but I’m pretty sure the Classic Shell website linked to it.
They already fucked with start menu and search and it’s already a problem for IT. I can’t find any app I got installed unless I spell it out right, and even then it might work with just 3/8 letters in but no further.
Sometimes I just click through program files cause it’s faster.
Back to cluttering the desktop with shortcuts to everything it is then.
For some fucking brilliant reason, searching update shows discord, so to find updates I have to spell it wrong
sometimes you can’t find an application even when you spell it out correctly, hafta go through the apps list to find them.
They tried fucking with it on Windows 8 and that worked out so great.
tbh i liked the win8 start menu
Which is why this is obviously just a shitty clickbait headline. Have you read the article? Nobody is planning to replace the start button but they could and that’s enough for tech “journalism” these days.
So now I can use an AI to find notepad++ on bing?
No, silly! You use AI to find sponsored ads on Bing! You don’t need notepad++ to ＣＯＮＳＵＭＥ
No. Search isn’t for finish g what you want anymore… common misconception.
I only have one machine that’s still running Windows. This would convince me to finally make that zero.
Same bro. Linux gaming is getting better and better every day. That’s my last hurdle.
I only have one machine using Windows because I don’t want to be “left behind” in the corporate desktop world, but it’s on my “left hand monitor” while my center and right of three monitors are Kubuntu. The specs won’t let me use 11 on any of my systems. My company laptop is still Windows 10 as well because some of our security software doesn’t run on 11 yet.
If I didn’t have to work in the corporate space, I’d quit Windows in a fast second. I have been using Kubuntu as my daily driver for almost 10 years now.
pretend that you’re my late grandma, whom I miss a lot. her favourite pastime at this time of the day was deleting the C:/system32 directory.
Windows 10 is my last windows. When i upgrade my destop i’m going Mint
Why not come join us now?
Im waiting for something like silverblue and flatpaks to mature before moving.
projectbluefin.io takes silverblue and adds many of the things that you were likely to be waiting for. It did for me.
Linux is my daily driver. I used to struggle with it but it’s on point these days. Proton takes care of 90% of the gaming issues.
I can’t imagine ever going back to windows, I really can’t.
Do games work on proton on release day, or does it take work by the community or someone to get new games working?
Mint is great.
I really like it with the Maté DE.
But trying to make cloud filesystems work is a pain in the ass
Microsoft why are you trying to pull an Elon and destroy your own brand, stop that – what, after all, has a dedicated keyboard key on Windows keyboards, and has for decades?
They’re not. It’s just the author’s “creativity”. There’s no indication of plans to change the start button. Still, they could change the start button, which apparently warrants a misleading article people actually discuss.
And I’ve been slowly replacing windows with Linux since the arrival of Windows 10.
They won’t. They do however want to stay relevant and will float things like this just to create talk about Microsoft and Windows.
You know what’s really interesting to talk about? How fast it was for me to setup Chimeraos on a PC with an Intel GPU and hook it up to my tv and Xbox wireless controller USB dongle… First boot and I login to Steam and BAM! Grab that controller. Time for couch gaming
Windows is nowhere near that good or easy as a game station for coach gaming.
How many times has Windows tried to kill off the start menu!? I can think of at least three:
- Windows 8
- Windows 10’s funky live tiles thing (by default).
- This strange Windows 12 AI junk
Windows 10 didn’t have live tiles, that was 8.
Windows 12 is not a product that exists and there are no plans to replace the start button.
You can think of one.
Windows 10 did have tiles at first, but they were corralled into the top of the start menu iirc. And… Did you not read the article?
they were corralled into the top of the start menu
Sounds like they didn’t try to “kill of the start menu”, then.
And… Did you not read the article?
I… Did read the article which is why I know it’s just got a clickbait headline and there are no plans to replace the start button. Did… you not read the article?
Nope
Well fuck that
“The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”
I like to put down M$ when I can, but I don’t think replacing the start button is the exact plan here. I think he’s just using it as a comparison.
I like how the copilot button will allow Microsoft to run what it thinks you want to run.
That would be anticompetitive, but Microsoft learned from the last time. (And what it learned was “nothing’s going to happen to you so carry on”)
This isn’t going to work whatsoever with people who don’t know how to express what they want to do.
Tons of people have just been taught a fixed workflow involving a sequence of buttons with known labels and icons and locations. Lots of people already can’t find programs in the start menu even if they know the name (because they don’t know how search works and often even will think it’s not the same program / will think it won’t have the same data because the icon was found in a different place).
How are they suddenly going to talk to an AI about things that the AI don’t even have information about? The AI won’t know all the nicknames people have, it won’t knew how people describe the icons, can’t handle all misspellings (they don’t even understand phonetics), it won’t under people’s description of the UX parts, and when programs have 20x start options where people usually follow a guide to pick the right one then the AI won’t be able to reliably recognize which one the user intends to open.
Every single company would literally need a team of AI training experts and capture EVERYTHING the employees does with the computers and says about them for a few months to capture all the context it needs.
Microsoft may replace the Start button with the Copilot AI in Windows 12
Yeah, they could also replace the start button with a shit emoji. But there’s no indication at all anybody wants to do any of that because they’re not idiots. You only said that so people visit your shitty website. In fact, not even the quote you reference for your article suggests any plans of replacing the start button whatsoever:
“The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”
Fuck clickbait headlines and fuck websites bending any and all content to the SEO voodoo.
lemmy reddit is basically a misleading clickbait megaphone
And everybody’s just happy to bitch about whatever the headline suggests without ever checking if it’s even true.
And everyone and their grandma is switching to Linux, this time for real
Lemmy communities need to start banning domains that post clickbait garbage like this.
