Some projects managed to pull off a license change before

I think you’re right, the reality is not actually so black-and-white. With the GNU project indeed being a notable “exception” of sorts. And, while I can’t think of any single project that would change from GPL and still be alive, I think I’ve heard about at least attempts of doing so once, more than a decade ago, not too successful IIRC.

So to be a GPL project

But to answer the question… I’m not trying to say what is a GPL project. But sometimes I can tell when something isn’t [a GPL project], and Slint isn’t. It doesn’t revolve around copyleft and its ideology. Neither is MySQL. MariaDB is. MariaDB is easier to fork off MySQL than it would be off Slint though. Slint has much broader API, more evolving too I’d assume (but I don’t know).

So my recommendation on when to use or not use Slint would still hold. And I still insist that it’s factually correct to say that Slint is not a GPL project.

I think we can’t find an agreement on our angles on the topic so much that it’s simply not constructive to push the conversation further. I’m afraid that if I’ll try to say anything now, it’ll be a repetition of what was already written earlier.

In short, I see Slint as a not GPL project (but rather as a commercial project that happens for now to triple-license the code and includes GPL). I see GPL projects as fundamentally different to Slint, in a sense that, once you have enough external contributors, you simply cannot revert back and stop being a GPL project, whereas in Slint I see it as possible. I trust GPL projects and I know I can “lean” on them, whereas I’d advise to rely on Slint only if you have commercial entanglement that you want to keep.

I’d propose to agree to disagree.

I’m not sure if you’re reading my message well?

I’m saying that GPL-licensed *projects* protect themselves well. If you lean on a GPL project, it’s likely going to hold. Not disappear because of a commercial incentive. Non-copyleft projects tend to disappear if they become valuable to companies, such as IntelliJ’s Rust plugin, or BSD => MacOS.

Again if you’re developing a non-open-source project, Slint is fine. You’ll be bound to each other with mutual commercial interests.

You can edit your post to change the link if you wish [to remove a layer of redirection]. Or even edit to directly the final destination of straitstimes com…

Why this strange link to vger.to? It just redirects to https://lemmy.world/post/1433287 and serves no purpose that I would understand.

Is it important for you that people who currently invest die, or that the seizing of properties doesn’t work anymore?

Good question, and I’m not fully sure. I think it may be the messengers, E2E or not. I hope it’s not the hardware providers such as Samsung/Apple, because those wouldn’t be trustworthy.

It’s not a full ending yet. It’s a local win. But the possibility for the proposed “voluntary” surveillance is still discussed. We need to push until April 2026 to make sure this sh*t doesn’t get through in any shape or form.

I’ve also edited the post slightly, adding a TL&DR; on top.

Please check when posting if it’s a duplicate (it is).

I’ve noticed that the first vote to the post was a downvote, so I wanted to clarify and remind on the difference.

You’re absolutely right.

Upvote for the post and exposing it publicly, downvote for AMD’s action towards people without datacenters…

Sorry for the late reply.

The royalty free license tries to get as close to MIT as we can while limiting the use on embedded…

I think I understand that perspective. But please also understand the other perspective: how a user has the right to see it, when they are not connected to the company.

If you are such a user, then you need open-source software for your daily life. And you use it. At the same time, you see:

• IntelliJ Idea taking its MIT-licensed Rust plugin and deciding that it’ll be more profitable for them to close-source it, so you won’t have it anymore. And of course nobody forked the plugin. The idea is clear, the company wants you to use Rust Rover.

• Apple’s OS, being historically based on 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD, and being the second-highest valued company in the world (!), is happily living with all and any of that MIT-licensed code, while BSD itself is stagnating. It’s not Apple’s fault of course, Apple is not a bad actor here. It’s just not very smart or future-proof to spend a lot of time binding yourself to a system that can easily turn into stagnation.

On the other hand, GPL-licensed projects protect themselves very well. When things don’t go well, you see successful foks (such as Forjeo, LibreOffice, MariaDB). When things go well, you just see it thriving (such as Linux, most userland software).

We try to make all of the terms as clear as possible. We rewrote the Slint licensing page several times,…

To answer this and to conclude, for me personally, it’s not about how to write something. It’s about what is written. The fact that Slint aims to be good for a for-profit company, does not and will never nullify that MIT contributions are re-licensed as GPL or proprietary. It will come up, and it’s fair when it does… as I see it, at least.

That’s very odd… What percentage of the company now belongs to Australia?

I think both 0 screen time and infinite screen time are bad extremes for kids. Infinite probably doesn’t need explaining, zero is also not very effective because you’re likely gonna alienate the kid and they’ll be playing at friend’s houses anyway.

Personally I think the best approach is to try be a guide for your kid, not a policeman. Soon enough they’ll be on their own anyway, and the reasons will stick better than the rules.

Yeah, I didn’t think about it, but your comment makes sense to me. I don’t know what’s best really.

Like in a discussion here on Lemmy that was just a little while ago, I think phone usage during school hours would be a far healthier and effective alternative. I’ve seen how it works in practice in 2 different countries, one with mobile phones allowed and one disallowed. And the complete ban on phone usage during school hours really goes easy and works well (as I see implemented in Dutch schools at least - you just hand over your device in the morning until end of school).

I don’t currently live in Australia so I may be ill informed, but the arguments sound made-up to me.

Hollonds said she’s worried the ban will adversely affect children who already struggle to find connection and belonging at school, citing LGBTQIA+ children, those with mental health problems, neurodiverse children, children with disabilities and complex needs, and children who live in regional and rural areas.

Doesn’t that sound exactly like the “can somebody please think about the children” argument? I mean, how will social media help those with mental health problems? There’s a ton of studies that social media only makes it worse, and by far.

Or in other words, don’t have hopes that some magical “social media” is gonna help the children. Do it, yourself. Support minorities around you. Be more welcoming of other genders/preferences. Talk to other people. That kind of stuff… It’s true that some gaps will need to be filled though, with kids around you getting less zombified by social media and instead asking you questions maybe, or playing games, or making friends IRL.

I’ve found that the other replies don’t really express my personal take on this, so I’ll go ahead and write mine down.

First of all, and it’s important, people’s take on such topics is heavily dependent on the country they live in. It’s legitimately hard to imagine why you would want to break government rules hard and be a good person if you live somewhere in Norway. And it’s legitimately hard to imagine a world where you really trust your government and think that the current levels of censorship is actually good if you live in a dictatorship country.

With this in mind, a comfortable and universal level of censorship simply doesn’t exist.

I think the lack of Tor support is valid criticism if you’re in a dictatorship. Of course, DNS-based solutions are not good-enough for you. I hope you’ll find something that solves your problems. Unfortunately a simple Lemmy instance is not a solution for you.

Generally, if I’d advise something, I’d suggest to look at what the project actually aims to do, not at what you think it should be doing. E.g. visit https://join-lemmy.org/ and there it says:

Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform. It is completely free and open, and not controlled by any company. This means that there is no advertising, tracking,…

Well, does it sound like a solution made for people in heavily censored environments? To me – not. If you want to present your case and incentivize the Lemmy devs to ADD another perspective or direction to the software that they’re spending time developing, prepare your case and argumentation well. Explain your situation (e.g. “I’ll be hung if I speak freely where I live”, or more relevant, “my country heavily DNS-censors 90% of the good existing Lemmy instances, I’m deprived of good information you have circling here”), propose some solutions or offer help. I don’t know really. It’s up to you. Good luck with your seach

I think/hope it was a joke.

But none that I’d like or find healthy, to be honest.

I guess that’s a good first step… towards making gambling undesired and unapproachable overall, as much as possible.

(I’m assuming here that “simply” making it illegal overnight might not work and may only make it more attractive to some people. So the correct approach is to really make it less attractive.)

If your ability to get inside your house depends on AWS, then either

• your prefrontal cortex hasn’t fully developed yet (read: you are below ~~25 y.o. and your risk assesment skills are not fully developed yet)
• or, you’re an idiot.