maybe vdo.ninja? it uses webrtc and has not given me performance issues thus far

controlled opposition lenin quote

they are controlled opposition in my opinion, if you follow the money (i.e. financed primarily by google to my knowledge) and look at their current diversification in service offerings they appear to be ‘privacy-washed’ or ‘ethics-washed’ (for lack of a better term, the equiv. of greenwashing or pinkwashing for tech corps to appear ethical or progressive) with a push to appear as a feature-complete ‘privacy respecting’ alternative to google.

in my opinion proton is doing the same thing, esp atm with their push towards non-profit status. openai (which is obviously not open in any sense od the word in the industry they operate in) is also i believe governed by a non-profit entity… or at least the for-profit part of their company is.

non-profit status with larger organizations i think like any other large organization is not worth taking at face value, but idk someone here prob has a better handle on it than i do…

im almost convinced mozilla and by extension firefox is controlled opposition

not quite as bad as adobe, but they are among the worst

Hey im a bit confused, you are saying to randomly generate information like personal details whenever signing up for anything? Is this better than using a made up real sounding name?

best of luck

Were there particular pieces or issues you were looking for?

Glad to see you on the grind cde

No, never be sorry. You investigated cde, you have the literal right to speak :3

Yeah I think what you mentioned makes sense. I would argue your characterization falls into the often encountered issue with any cartesian, syllogistic, or otherwise self-described ‘rational’ logic & reasoning [1]. Essentially anything with only 2 truth states, while not intrinsic, appears to be tended towards.

I hadn’t actually encountered those parts of vygotsky’s work, thanks for the suggestion!

[1] Emotions are completely rational, see Randolph M. Nesse’s seminal paper (though he is an evolutionary psychologist/psychiatrist so take what he says with a whop of salt) and perhaps watch a lecture by him, there are several recorded seminars on ytube. I’d have to find the one I like, if you want a suggestion I can def find it for ya.

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The more fundamental liberal point of view espoused as far as I understand (please feel free to correct me, I don’t claim to have a genuine understanding of your argument) is the lack of engagement with the material reality of emotions, their function, and adequate descriptions of their specific role without dismissing them out of hand. This leads from the ‘Age of Reason’/‘Age of Enlightenment’ thinking, and deviates towards the kind of fantastical liberty argues by Stuart Mill, Madison, etc.

Nesse’s explanation of emotions–which appear ‘irrational’ or ‘inappropriate’ insofar as they do not appear to give the best outcomes for the emotional individual–as ‘smoke detectors’ works quite well. It ascribes function and meaning and makes the debate not one on qualifications of emotions as something to dismiss readily. To clarify what I mean, let me quote you, emphasis and footnotes are mine:

[…] …aimed at the tone of an argument instead of its factual or logical content [2] in order to dismiss a person’s argument. Ignoring the truth or falsity of a statement [3], a tone argument instead focuses on the emotion [4] with which it is expressed. […]

Instead the claim levied is erroneous on the parts I footnoted. The first [2] is the argument is the qualification of ad hominem which I disagree with. To keep it short, if the tone is relevant to the conditions in which the argument is made, then it is prima facie possible to affect the content of the argument. Arguments regarding it must be investigated, to use a phrase by Mao.

Then the one highlighting the tone themselves may be pointing out a subtle and apparently non-rational aspect. The difficulty in understanding the claim by the recipient or other parties is then for the sake of convenience considered ad hominem as it is not considered central to the argument. You can see here and you must know that fallaciousness is circumscribed and used as a useful heuristic, they are interpreted and not as clear as for example you have used it. The claim of fallaciousness obviously needs to be argued (which you certainly did, I am not claiming you did not) and a simple claim towards it is not sufficient in the least unless we will say it is agreed upon by the parties engaged in argument. Dismissal by arguing it is ad hominem does not disqualify all arguments with emotions as a focal point, and neither does dismissal of the ‘null hypothesis’ or particular case necessarily lend positive enforcement to other theses espoused.

Then I vehemently disagree with the categorization of ‘factual’ or ‘logical’ made, with a few qualifications. I understand factual as meaning an evidential claim with empirical evidence, or a claim which can be argued naïvely, and readily agreed upon. The common refrain is:

1. Socrates is a man
2. Socrates is a philosopher
3. Therefore all men are philosophers

I consider this for the purposes of an argument, to be considered true only for the purposes of the argument, i.e. to further elucidate some point. Another example with an emphasis on on the empirical aspect:

1. There is a cat
2. There is a mat below the cat
3. The cat is sitting
4. Therefore the cat is sitting on a mat

Then if the fallaciousness is circumscribed as follows (again please correct me, I assume I am incorrect and wrong, I just want to show where my thinking is to make it easier for you to share with me & to correct and brainworms):

1. Person A is making an argument
2. Person B comments on the perceived qualitative expression of Person A, i.e. on their alleged emotional state, i.e. on a physiological process which intrinsically has communicative affects towards others
3. Person B states or attempts to argue the emotional state has some importance in the context of the argument made by Person A
4. Person A states that this is not true, that their emotional state is unrelated, and that Person B is committing the fallacy of ad hominem

Here is where I have a problem. Stating that it is unrelated or untrue is the beginning of an argument or the thesis and it does not stand on itself, truthfully here I consider the statement [3] to be relevant. Truth or falsity may not be correctly argued by Person B, and it is not as though there cannot be an argument which is readily arguable by means of the emotive state of an involved party. For example:

1. Person C states that they hate migrants entering into the country which they have citizenship of and which they reside
2. Person C appears to Person D that they are afraid and angry
3. Person D asks why Person C is afraid or angry
4. Person C says it is not relevant in any meaningful way to their prior statements
5. Person D asks why they hate migrants entering into their country of residence
6. Person C states they take jobs away from the citizenry of the country

Here we can say hopefully without too much disagreement that the argument Person C makes is rational and logical apropos. The oft quoted saying, “You cannot reason a person out of something they did not reason themselves into” is necessary to keep in the back of one’s head and with kept with due consideration. Why? The premises that Person C has are faulty. A consequence of that is 1. the logically sound argument (at least as it appears) and 2. the emotive states which Person C appears to have.

Then how does one know if emotions are involved or not? As far as I am considered, they always are, whether it is to a meaningful extent needs to be determined in the course of argument. Any immediate dismissal is for convenience’s sake and likely due to faulty or erroneous premises the dismisser has. That is they do not really know much about emotions, and they employ a naïve rationalist framework in their thinking and argumentation. As materialists, the material conditions of even an individual must be taken into account, that includes qualitative states which may very well have a meaningful influence. Then [4] is rather unhelpful, as it precludes any discussion of an empirical affect, or, the material reality which can be observed and reasoned on itself.

Sorry for the wall of text, and for the late reply, I just thought of this a bit recently and wanted to share.

yo been a while cde, i wanted to ask: have you read any other ancient greek/roman authors? i’m looking at iamblichus and his work on pythagoras, and lucretius and his works. i’m not really acquainted (i only read socratic dialogues and not the mid or later platonic works, and parts of aristotle like organon and working through nicomachean & eudemian ethics) and i’m wondering if you have any tips or advice (｡◕‿◕｡)

honestly super impressed with stalin’s writing in general, kinda unbelievable that someone could be so good at as many things. i’ve met savant’s and their fantastical ability is typically restricted to a narrow domain, for some it’s almost as if they don’t have any special ability, and they could likely choose an area and excel at it. maybe not the absolute best, and still really really good.

any others come to mind?

you managed to sum up what i was thinking (was trying to use a polite & snarky tone)

Oh my, that’s genuinely awful. My mom had (and still has) chronic pain and so does my best friend. I had to give massages at night after they couldn’t bear the pain and they wouldn’t ask me because they didn’t wanna burden me or something like that. Since they were always in pain, they didn’t wanna feel needy!! So they’d wait until it was at its worst!

Really hope there’s something out there that can help you somewhat immediately. My best friend did physio (still does… consistently for 4ish years now) and the prescribed exercises & stretches really helped her out.

Medical staff won’t give you what you need when you seem too ‘needy’, it’s awful, it has a long precedent, and it’ll keep happening for the foreseeable future until contemporary medicine changes their modus operandi from zero-sum marginal-numbered positions to allowing anyone dedicated to become a doctor/medical professional.

kept on a leash

It’s crazy, Monsanto is like there wherever GMO’s are.

I think there are interventions that might work, e.g. golden rice which has more of some vitamin, creating hybrids of crops to make them disease resistant, I mean it’s already done, crops are sequenced and changes in their genome can be understood, modelled, and changed. It’s not trivial. Look at the wheat genome, it’s 16 Gbp (giga base pairs), which means letters like ATGC, for context the current reference human genome is around 3 Gbp. I recall when the wheat genome was sequenced, it was a mess of complexity,it’s been bred selectively so many times and has exaggerated features you wouldn’t find in nature. Understanding it to make major modifications might take some time. At the very least for now artificial selection can be done which is proven and works rather well.

An issue with golden rice and all gmo’s are their ties to industry. Golden rice I think was opposed by local farmers because they may have been displaced or at the beck and call of who owns the IP and rights of the crop. I don’t really recall and don’t want to go searching.

I’m only against gmo business practices, and it’s hard to decouple the publicly funded research with cruddy profit-seeking behaviour.

Just recall that there’s more than enough land to feed the entirety of the world’s population. Companies need to stop discarding & wasting food. People in the Global North would have to eat less meat to open up agriculture from feed & domesticated animals to food which can directly feed humans. There is significant energy loss in the Plant>Animal>Human pipeline.

A genuine problem is the effect of climate change on agriculture. Many crops and arable land will be lost.

No, I don’t think I will.