Considering the criticism of the system was more rooted in the reality of past and neo colonialism, do you have a defense of it beyond its critics are biased?

I mean it seems like you know my criticism of the nordic model, but hand wave it by saying we would simply make an off world without that bit. I’m not really convinced.

Have you considered politics rooted in reality rather than a star trek writer model?

⬆ Jokes on you, I am liberal accelerationist

I think the realities of physics will make true interstellar travel hopeless, so to me solar punk as an aesthetic is the more real idea of humanities possible utopia, should one ever exist. With that, I think it also pretty strongly ties the art with action. These facts giving a more grounding for praxis than start trek.

I liked this video on it. Basically, a play on the ideas of cyberpunk, but rather than using grim art as a warning, it instead focuses on radical optimism and envisioning a world we should strive to create. Building off the the ideas of renewable power, hence the solar, it posits that technology used in the right way can bring us to a beautiful and healthy society, freed from the capitalist systems that are poisoning our environment and selves.

I wish there was a return period for elections.

Yeah, this has pretty quickly devolved, and advice on depression is hard to take from the closest of connections, so I doubt as an internet stranger I will have good luck.

everything I say is either stupid, wrong or both anyway

you’ll eventually end up realizing I’m not worth your or anyone else’s time eventually.

I’m completely fucking up

like everything else, I am failing spectacularly at it.

when I inevitably fail

This is not the language of a healthy mind, and the fact that it is showing up in an internet conversation political action, suggests to me this is just the surface of it. If you feel this way, look for mutual aid groups in your area, find community and seek people to connect with that might help. Your daughter deserves to have someone in good mental health fighting for her.

This a very self deprecating response, I think you should seek help from a therapist because I don’t think a sober read of this conversation would draw these conclusions. Good luck in your struggles and I hope you find what you need.

I can see you’re upset, but genuinely, I think it leads to a better community on lemmy in general to approach with good faith. The point overall being, if you are asking in earnest, and are hoping for answers about what possible way forward we have, I would hope that you recognize that there are better ways to communicate that. I’m sorry it’s upsetting that certain langue is interpreted differently, even if the core is the same, but it’s the reality.

Given that reality, being upfront about your worries and feelings of helplessness is valid and helps to connect rather than dismiss. With that, expressing the lack of knowledge as a personal aspect, rather than framing the exhausting of options you’re aware of as the end of all options, would help show that you are looking for whatever is next.

As for ‘an answer’, it’s not something I can easily give because these are complex issues. The reality is it can’t be distilled down to “Get out and vote” because the problems extend beyond that, and any real answer that match that simplicity would along the lines of “organize” but I assume like me, you’d find that sort of broad advice hollow.

I can’t say what you should do because it depends on your local politics, what you’re able to commit, where your politics sit, and ultimately what you think your place would be in whatever is done. With that I recommend black radical thought because I find it best encompasses the tools needed to learn for the reasons I mentioned. Along side learning, I think reaching out to local political groups for work that can be done would be a great way to see what options and opportunists marginalized folks are making for themselves.

In short, if you fear for the well-being of, black/brown, indigenous, immigrant, queer, or everyone else that will suffer under the coming wave of fascism, do as Mr Rogers says and look for the helpers, and if you can, help them.

I literally asked what is suggested people do.

I feel like this is an obtuse description. There are better ways to ask what should be done that do not read as defeatist if you’re genuine.

No one is expecting you to come up with solutions, that’s why I recommended black radical thought, as these are folks that have been on the front line of fighting and experiencing America’s decent into fascism.

This conversation is so frustrating to witness. Particularly because I remember you were such a strong proponent of Harris though the election cycle, which suggest you have political sense enough to care and know things are bad, but now that the cards are different your plan is to disconnect and feel hopeless? If you truly believe that America is a fascist dictatorship, and realize that we have the largest military in the world, don’t you feel moral imperative to at least try? If the solution you were striving for didn’t work, why is your next move give up rather than look to something like black radical thought, which has for much longer being explaining how the solutions to these problems don’t come with ballots.

Is it normal to double it up?