Is it over then?

*laughs in American*

Seems unnecessarily cruel to me. I did try it once, was hardly worth the suffering. Tasted like normal pate

What do you mean “for a living hell no”? You think ancient humans didn’t have to work to survive? You think life is some gift to you and you deserve it? Survival is work. You just want free food and shelter while others are working to provide enough for themselves and for you? If surviving is too much work for you, don’t do it. No one is forcing you.

Not gonna lie every time I’m there I want to put my hand over it and feel it…

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Great question, one I don’t have the answer to. But the cows themselves aren’t the issue, it’s deforestation. There is a balance or course.

The methane thing is a non issue. Where do you think the cows get the methane from? Plants they eat. As long as we keep enough plants to reabsorbe the methane for the cows to eat, and burp out etc etc then it’s a closed loop. Like the water cycle. The issue is removing forests for cows.

But isn’t that an argument against deforestation, not against cattle itself?

In somewhere like the UK or Swiss mountains rain is abundant, using less water is not even remotely an issue. The land is not flat enough to be turned into farmland.

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What about grass fed, open range, free roaming cows? They occupy land that cannot be used for much else and turn it into kcals