I wouldn’t say equally important, only because in the situation of someone doing 100% online work compared to someone doing 100% physical life work, you’d obviously prefer the latter.

However it’s important to recognize the very real benefits online communist activity has. Fuck, that’s what got me involved. That’s where I got most of my information. It’s where I learned to discuss well, it played a humongous developmental role in becoming a communist that does things irl too.

Like others have said, we need tech spaces not controlled by major corporations. We need places that don’t censor us, that we can confidently post things and organize on. Especially when things get more spicy here in the states. That is, in my opinion, a real life benefit.

We can’t expect just working online to change anything, but we sure as hell can use the crazy amount of people online and useful tools that the internet has to bolster our movement. Full solidarity with our software commies.

*I’d like to make an edit/clarification because after thinking some more, they’re about as close to being equally important as you can get in today’s age. Specifically in the west. Even in the scenario I created earlier, it’s better to have both of those people than just one, because the online-commie can absolutely assist the real-life commie in many tangible and not tangible ways. I think of the research done and articles gathered from those of us on this platform, that never could’ve happened if it were just me researching. Having a, for lack of a better term, think tank designed for us is really important for developing correct ideas and discussion.

At this rate it probably won’t lmao

Yessss I was waiting for someone to confirm that <3 get fucked empire

I wouldn’t really use the word “agrees” to be honest. It’s a great thing, undoubtedly, but I think they wouldn’t do this if they weren’t de facto forced to because they’re stretched so unimaginably thin. This country truly is on the brink.

This is true.

The neutral criticism piece I actually disagree with. I think it’s equally on the people’s perception as it is on the person delivering/intention, and in a society where most people are going to be much more likely to be responsive to a positive languaged critique, there is no reason not to. We don’t have to be logic-lords or Spock, we’re humans and we like to be reassured and talked to nicely even when we are wrong. This is all assuming the person is good faith ofc.

It probably differs based on who you’re talking to, y’know, other comrades can probably take a little more direct language compared to some random newbie but I think it stands regardless, you have to frame it in a way that is digestible because of the large possibility that it could be blocked by your tone and their response to it. If we want to be practical, we need to consider this.

Personally I still agree with you lol, and am working on/getting better at taking direct criticism as not personal. But that doesn’t mean we should expect everyone to take it that way, it’s just not the way most people think.

Edit: everything else you said I agree with though, I still just have my own issues I listed above lol ^

That could be true, and definitely is for a number of “left-wing” creators. I don’t know if that’s the case for this, though, because he seems to (no hate to him here) really not be that popular? Or content-creator-y? Like he writes essays and critique pieces, he doesn’t make videos or whatever and to my knowledge none of this is monetized, so would that even be a motive? I don’t know, but either way it’s an “ugh” moment lol.

I hope I’m not crucified for this but I can’t stand this guy. People have made good points about him, and theoretically/intellectually he is brilliant - we all know communists need to be engaged in serious business and not just spam posting memes and hanging out in our circle-jerk platforms.

But is he not a flaming hypocrite? I swear I’ve read something about how he isn’t even involved in an organization because he “just can’t find anything serious enough” (this could be a dream on my part tho) - that is just insufferable. There are a few good orgs in the US/Canadian area and it’s ridiculous to throw everything out because they don’t adhere to page 4858584 line 5 of some obscure Marxist’s writing. It seems to me that he dishes out criticism after criticism and spams writings on the internet, engaging in borderline useless beef that doesn’t get much traction, all while being… chronically online himself?

I just think that like, anyone who is willing/able to understand/actually applying this level of Marxist thought isn’t just sitting online anymore and doesn’t need constant “takedowns” because someone said something vaguely wrong. JT makes one iffy MMT video that is literally one of his least effectual creations and dude wets his pants over it. I’m not saying don’t criticize but the frequency in which he makes them, combined with his harsh ass wording, combined with the (maybe?) fact that he is not even doing anything serious in real life? Rubs me the wrong way and just paints the stereotypical insufferable communist picture we all know.

He extrapolated very erroneously that anyone said don’t read theory here, and although the “you have to be a literal slave to be a commie” is braindead, he seems to latch on to literally anything that could be false and go deboonk mode.

Part of flowing through the masses and being one of them is not being an insufferable nerd. If this guy preaches sincerity and seriousness, then I think we should get serious that this rhetoric and behavior online isn’t doing shit other than MAYBE fine-tuning already-ML-aligned people. There’s a use for that, but good lord, if he tried this shit in an organization he would be hated. You can’t be obnoxious to your comrades or random members of society if you expect anything.

I could be going too harsh here honestly, I just have had these thoughts for quite a while and never really said anything lol. If it is proven true that he is in fact in a real life org then a lot of this would fall through and I would only stand on “stop being annoying” point, but I don’t know. You have to be personable and digestible to be an effective communist, not just “I know my shit and you don’t and here’s why”

Mucho texto over, burn me alive if necessary

Edit: Stawp downvoting me and explainnnnn

:) !

Jellyfish highly underrated imo

Not sure if I’m blind but elephant is not there, should be S+ minimum

Otherwise pretty good. Bee should be higher, depending on the type. Hornets are F- but actual pollination homies high up

Right.

Maybe. This world is rapidly deteriorating, and we’ve likely already set in many feedback loops that, even if we did a global communism tomorrow at noon, we’d still suffer severe consequences.

This doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. We absolutely still have a chance at humanity’s survival, and a good one at that.

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I can’t lie I wasn’t very active last year so I’m a bit out of the loop, but I do remember some beefy comment threads with you involved. Never with me directly tho.

I’m sure people will welcome you back with open arms. We all make mistakes and get hot-headed

I think this is a solid line of thinking. A terrifying one, but solid.

I know things have been much better under Biden!

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erm… more deportations than 45… border wall construction… more oil drilling than anyone ever… killed rail strikes… prison population all time high… one tiny COVID relief check… Roe struck down during his term… GENOCIDE FUNDING… Etc. Etc. Etc.

Before you scream “BAHHHH BIDEN CAN’T CONTROL IT ALL” let it be known that he does control the first 4 things and the very last one. He has bypassed congress to give weaponry to Israel and Ukraine, and done many of those things solo. The Democratic party could minimize or end all of the rest. Roe could have been codified like 50 times in the last 30 years and it wasn’t. Now they want to blame the SCOTUS for doing what they’ve wanted to do forever instead of just codifying it. Democrats are funding and creating cop cities. They don’t pass anything genuinely beneficial for more than 0.05% of the population. Even for those people, it isn’t enough most of the time.

They’re really not that different. Sure, they don’t OPENLY say they want to kill trans people. They don’t care if it happens though. These establishment fucks are bought by the exact same people the Republicans are. It’s time you start believing you live in a fascist dictatorship, you’re in one.

The one you can actually join.

If you’re in a large city, and have choices, my recommendation is FRSO. They are not a party, but kind of function as one. It will make more sense when you read about them and talk to a member. You can DM me and I can give you more information if you’re interested.

It is true, what diegeticscream said about not one party winning the revolution at the end of it. It’s going to be the masses, first and foremost, and many parties will likely come together or spar when the time comes. Just due to the nature of the US’s consciousness, or lack thereof, there will not be a dominant workers party here in the US for a long time. Longer than we have to carry out a revolution before a total fascist descent and climate change destroys everything. So it’s going to be mass organizations that veer more radical under leadership of communists who work with the people, not an explicit communist party. At least, that’s what I’ve picked up in my 6 months of organizing. I might revise that as time goes on.

My answer still remains the one you can actually join. Just get off your cheeks, every little thing counts. Even a conversation. Sure, it’s not material the way we think of it, but those words are creating some kind of thought process in another’s head, which may lead them to venture and learn more and become a great communist one day. That’s how we all got here, no? Didn’t just wake up as a tankie. Qualitative changes only come after many many quantitative ones. Those quantitative ones have to be built by us. So do SOMETHING and do not get discouraged when you’re months in and haven’t changed much. The one you can actually join and participate in is the best party for you.

That’s not to say there isn’t a “best” ML organization in the US, and for that my answer is also unchanged, I say FRSO.

I’m concerned too! What else am I going to be able to use as toilet paper? (This joke only works if they print… but either way)

Did the liberals redefine dictatorship to mean absolute authority by one brutal ruler?

Yes, literally yes. This is how it is used colloquially in many parts of the US, Kim Jong Un and Xi are both literally the strongest men in their whole societies and everyone listens to everything they say at all times. Zero material or class analysis.

This is also how they think of Hitler. He literally controlled it all in their minds, and I genuinely believe this is why they sympathize with Nazis so much because they genuinely believe fascism isn’t an oiled machine funded by many arms of capital and people, but is truly a brainwashed population completely subservient to one person. Like I said, no class or material analysis. Embarrassing.

Edit: Further, I have had acquaintances who know I’m a communist and heard me use “DoTP” before ask me in good faith - “So why do you think a dictatorship is the way to go? Why one person?”

They were not being rude or bad faith. They were trying to understand my position and did not even consider the possibility that I am talking in class dictatorship terms. It’s very sad to see.