Yeah I wrote that poorly. Of course not all Gazans want the expulsion of all Jews out of Israel. I meant the Palestinian authority in Gaza - that is Hamas - is advocating for that.

Until some other authority rises up in Gaza (or forced to be there, like putting Fatah there), I don’t see an end to this conflict.

Having their land includes the depopulation of all the jews in Israel? Coz that’s what Palestinians in Gaza are advocating for, and I don’t see that happening anytime soon (or ever).

If it leads to an actual change - everyone wins.

But I doubt anything will change, with Bibi being the snake he is.

It’s existence is an abomination

And that, kids, is why we have wars. The moment people with power start saying “yeah Israel should exist but also should a Palestinian state” - that’s when we’ll have peace.

Dude this is a cat meme

Dude that’s like blaming the U.S army for snowden.

The IDF and the Shin Bet are totally different entities

You’re either 12, or mentally 12.

Either way, bye.

Saying fuck is a tad bit different from calling someone a motherfucker.

No, and how tf is it related in any matter

I’m guessing they meant “old” as in “no one uses it anymore, it’s dead”

Just wanna get a debate going man. I don’t even like sports nor do i care honestly. I wouldn’t call me a “very vocal person”

I mean, just wanted to get a debate going man. Me having a different opinion got me on the legit death list of some people here.

Also I don’t really know how Lammy’s upvote system works, but I think me only getting -3 “points”(?) means that at least some people also think that wasn’t that much of an abuse of power.

Also hi mom I’m famous

Come on, English is my 2nd language, give me at least a bit of slack.

Not exactly more than an average person’s life.

First, again, tasers aren’t always deadly. In the vast majority of cases, they aren’t. I agree we should move towards solutions with 0% fatality, or change tasers to be more towards 0%, but I’m no taser expert.

Secondly, I don’t just mean the athletes career. What I meant by “their career” is their body. Crazy people can hurt the athletes, badly. I’d much rather have one drunk fan being tased than a world athlete being handicapped. And I don’t think that’s so fucked up.

Great, now cursing. Real classy, random internet person. Bye and have a bad day.

I agree with most of what you say, but as you said, it’s up to the organizers to make sure nothing goes horribly bad. And I just think that in the case of sports in a stadium, there needs to be 0 tolerance towards people breaking on-field. I agree it’s never completely safe, and most of the time the sport itself is way more dangerous than the crowd, but the security team has one job, and in the case presented here they did everything they could, and that’s the way it should be. 0 tolerance, since it can go downhill very fast.

Ah yes, because a stadium with thousands of people is exactly as manageable as your backyard.

Also, saying “tase or shoot people” is ridiculous. Don’t put those in the same category. One is meant to neutralize, the other to kill.

Also also, I like how you disregard completely the point about how they’re running - probably sprinting even. Which is again, much less manageable than your (honestly unreleated) example of “people that walk past my no traspassing signs”.

Seriously, put yourself in the situation for just a second and think again how chill you would’ve been.

I’m sorry, but people with heart conditions wouldn’t barge in on a sport event like that through security. And if they did, they’re a new kind of stupid. Police shouldn’t be less effective at their job in order to take extra measures towards dangerous people with disabilities. Security for the majority comes before the security of the minority (which I 100% agree should be considered, but I’m not taser expert. I don’t know how to make them less deadly, but they 100% should be). Especially when the minority is the one breaking the law.

I don’t think it’s only a danger from terrorists, also regular people wanting to hurt athlists. Take Monica Seles as an example.

You really can’t ever know what a man wants or will do to a “celebrity” if left unchecked.

A monopoly isn’t inherently bad, but a monopoly by a state is pretty bad. It means they can exert political pressure over you using that sector’s influence.

Heck, look at Russia and gas. It impacted tons of people all over the world, and if the world hadn’t collectively said “fuck you Russia we’ll handle ourselves without you” - then countries like Germany wouldn’t have a choice but keep buying Russian Gas.

That’s a political power you really don’t wanna give to anyone, especially not China.

Yes, competition could restart, but that’d take time. And you don’t always have that time. Again, see Russia and gas as a nice example for that.