О, дополнительный лулз.

Тяга про-западных блядей к проекциям грехов хозяев на Россию и Китай - это не ново, в конце концов вы, карго-культисты, за хозяевами только повторять и можете, но не перестаёт быть смешным, что псевдолевые дегенераты, искренне считающие себя свободными мыслителями, с пеной у рта защищают центр империализма и главных спонсоров геноцидов, просто потому, что были шокированы реальностью в какой-то момент и не выросли из абстрактного гуманизма.

Поздравляю. Ты карикатурен. Минуты скроллинга твоей русофобской истории только что окупились сполна смехом в голос.

В смысле руками пленных нацистов? Тут жаль только, что их потом домой выпустили.

Или руками советских преступников, которым платили и было гарантировано трудоустройство после окончания срока, а не полоскание на ветру, как в твоих любимых либеральных залупах, раб?)

start it right,

at least as a lib democracy

Выбери одно, бездарь=)

The US also orchestrated bloody terrorist attacks in China through their Uyghur jihadi proxies and China did not directly accuse the US. They are playing the long game.

They have cause to. China can actually weaponize their economic connection with the US. Doesn’t work that way for Russia at all. The main loser of the “sanctions” is the EU.

I don’t think so. Perhaps that was the case at first but by now they seem to have resigned themselves to a more or less permanent break with the West. They have reoriented their economy toward the east and i see no indication of any intention to turn back to how things used to be. In fact a lot of Russian officials have said as much. It’s just no longer necessary. The West isn’t the only game in town anymore. In a multipolar world you have options.

Maybe if our government wasn’t kicking so hard while reality is dragging it towards industrialization. They still want to sit on a pipe and get fat. And the world isn’t so multipolar with that perspective. China And India will buy, but you better believe they will also capitalize on Russia having a very short list of available markets.

Yeah, let foreign intelligence agencies arrange terrorist attacks in the country for diplomacy with the global south. Great. I’m pretty sure the likes of Lavrov could sell expulsion of western diplomats to the global south fairly easily anyway.

The only real explanation for this festival of cuckoldry I see is that Kremlin just deadass still hopes to make everything the way it used to be in a few years.

There is no agreement NATO countries don’t break and I sure shit won’t root for economic integration back with Europe. There should be no door for negotiations with terrorists. And these are fucking terrorist states.

Especially no negotiations about nukes. Let them shit themselves in the night over uncontrolled Russian nukes, I don’t give a fuck.

And of fucking course none of the western involvement will be made public, unless the West makes it public. Gonna make it too hard to get some sort of deal some of the Kremlin libs are still hoping for, won’t it. The worst CIA American diplomats in Russia will get is another rude comment by Medvedev on Twatter and Telegram.

As other comrades explained it’s about “tankies”, but you might be onto something here. Solntsepyok has T-72’s chassis…

Drawing on the Chinese example, PuYi abdicated in 1912, then in 1934 the Japanese put him on the throne as Emperor of Manchukuo. 20 years of being just a regular guy (in theory) did not diminish his usedulness as a figurehead.

That’s pretty much the “strategic situation” I mentioned - there was real risk of them falling into the hands of the Whites. What I meant to point out is that there was no good reason to just up and kill him at the time. Its not like he was in command of the movement or anything.

More broadly, the focus on the Romanov children is just a vector for the spread of anti-communist propaganda.

Sure, but not coming from me. Still regrettable, not something to replicate.

The propaganda aspect is especially obvious since OP’s friend invoked the nonsense emotional appeal of “would you shoot the Tsar if he were me?”

Yyeap. Even modern monarchist schitzos get some people into their bullshit by riling them up about it and many don’t wanna hear nothing about there having been no orders from Moscow afterwards.

There is a reason Soviet textbooks talked about the topic sparingly if at all. It wasn’t something that went as planned or desired at all.

"Would you shoot the Romanov’s even if it was me?! " “No sympathy. And yes, I would shoot regardless of personal connections”

What for though? Where is political pragmatism?

The amount of memes on the subject I see from western leftists makes me question if there are very few sources available in English or it’s just juvenile cruelty. It was local initiative, strongly influenced by strategic situation during the civil war in the region. Nicolas was “citizen Romanov” by then and the party had a 1001 reason to keep him and his family alive, including plans for a public trial. Lenin was pushing for their evacuation to Moscow. Also…moral implications of killing a couple of teens that were there, anyone? Kill them, because they were born into the wrong family? How very conservative… Not to mention penty of nobles up to and including at least one Major General of the Imperial army I can remember went on to form the core of the Red Army.

Consider the implications for propaganda too. Why create a bunch of martyrs for the Whites? Using exactly this argument, later that same year Maxim Gorky convinced Lenin let Nicolas’ sick second cousin go. Lo and behold - no one remembers Gavriil Constantinovich Romanov.

How many people attended his funeral?

For all of his fairy tales about support of the majority ~12k. And that’s fucking Moscow(population ~13million). For comparison ~50k attended funerals of Motorola and Givi in wartime Donetsk (population ~1 million). And those definitely didn’t have brainwashed libs traveling from afar to see the coffin of their dear Alexey Goebbels Jr. either. They sure did have the risk of an ukronazi terror bombing though.

How many are being arrested for attending?

Well, even your Ministry of Truth says that under a hundred, buddy. Wanna bet they were antagonizing the cops sent to provide security as a standard procedure for large gatherings?

You’re right not to. The news is probably better - far as I understand DPRK administration is much more pragmatic than exchanging artillery shells and short-range missiles for consumer products. Their military probably got some tech help from ours. Sure seems weird DPRK had it’s first successful launch of a spy satellite in november of 2023

Marx and Engels were who?

Checkmate, tankie!

Like…officially? Because there have been plenty of intercepted communications in Polish and mysterious coffins returning to certain NATO countries.

Does anyone know what going on with that?

Not much. I found numbers from 55 to 400 arrested country-wide in two days. They’ll get 20 days and a fine at the very worst. I think you can surmise how widespread and consequential these protests are. As I saw someone say on TG Navalny’s hamsters remaining in the country can probably be caught on one camera shot from a drone if they were in one place.

although it seems lightly implausible (but not impossible) that they infiltrated a Siberian penal colony just to kill a guy so he could be used as a martyr.

Well, they wouldn’t have to, really. It’s not that hard to pay a crooked prison guard these days. But yeah, my money’s on a prison beyond the polar circle being bad for you, especially when you’re not that healthy to begin with, as well.

Edit for the fans of conspiratorial version: his lawyer visited a couple of days prior, so maybe not even a guard, or a guard was paid not to search the lawyer to zealously.

It’s not just the ~300 days in prison. It’s not like it was hard to kill him at any point prior. Not to mention the dumb fuck did more to die himself with that “poisoning”(probably an OD).

Honestly, I don’t see a single reason why Putin would do it. The situation was perfect for him as it was - Navalny was largely forgotten and had no bearing on anything. If anything, he won’t appreciate a minor shitstorm on the Internet a month before the elections.

But hey, “great” people can’t just die of health issues, it’s always someone!

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I mean, who are we trying to fool, really? Surely, this was done under the threat of execution of entire families and the guy got the idea in the first place under the influence of oppression nanobots in the Chinese air.