This is a photo hosting site, that you don’t even need to stop using yourself. If you’d like to view motherless, you can. Hell, if you find something that’s not CP you could upload it on another site if you really wanted.

This is such a weird hill to die on. You’re defending a site known to have CP, that’s very weird.

I don’t really care about motherless. It’s just a simple principle regarding censorship and overreach and I don’t understand why you respond with such a kneejerk reaction? Bans like this should have a proper basis behind them, regardless of what site it is.

Your argument is reddit and 4chan hosted questionable material and they banned the site. Wouldn’t that mean, by your logic, that we would also want to ban it because if we’re supposed to be better than them, then we would want to ban something they deemed as worse than them.

My argument is that all those mentioned sites are known to have been a host for such material. Now the question is why we treat one site differently than others, despite evidently there not being much of a case against any of them at least in their current state. So yes, if all those mentioned sites host such material, and that is the basis for this ban, then all of those sites should be banned along with motherless. Also, I cannot really verify with what exact reasoning & evidence 4chan & Reddit banned it or who did it first. If they just said they host CSAM and gave an equally flimsy reason for that as you did, then there would be now just 3 sites that banned another site while citing each other? So what’s next? A fourth site doing the same, on the sole basis of the other 3 doing it but without further proof that there’s actually a CSAM issue there (at least one that’s not generally worse than all the other mentioned sites)? Do you not see how that is a problem?

Also, if there was a direct link to someone’s social media with personal identifying information that was not consensual it would get removed. So yes Facebook and places are not 100% in the clear either.

That wasn’t really the topic though? It was about alleged CSAM being hosted there, primarily based on your .pdf report, which also listed all those other sites along with it. Yet, only one of them gets this treatment? I simply do not understand how this line is drawn at this site specifically.

4chan and reddit would not ban the site on baseless allegations

Reddit is well known for unreasonable bans of users & communities. Their CEO itself was once moderator of /r/jailbait. Reddit as well as 4chan are generally known for such content too.

It’s explicitly listed in the Office of Justice’s docs about sites known to be used to distribute csam.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/301590.pdf

So according to your source:

Social networking sites, such as Facebook [287, 307], Twitter [308, 309, 310], Facebook’s Instagram, Google’s YouTube, Reddit, and lesser known social sites (e.g., Motherless.com) that are too numerous to list.

I assume this means you also ban Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, and Reddit links? Or are only “smaller sites” ban worthy?

I’ve been on that site before. They’re certainly more lax with their content & titles but I have never seen any obvious CSAM / minors there. At best you’d see teens where it would be hard to tell if they’re above or below 18 years old. The only time I stumbled on obvious CSAM material is all the way back in the early days of the www & filesharing where assholes would intentionally rename those videos to something like popular movie titles or other files & change the file ending. Luckily it wasn’t that monitored back then so my mom didn’t got any unwanted visits or letters but this was truly a minefield back then.

So what’s the basis of the alleged lack of moderation of CSAM on Motherless then?

The duality of the Fediverse. On one hand getting accused of being a toxic troll that’s banned everywhere for being against murder, terrorism, genocide & rape, and on the other hand I’m part of “the echo chamber”. Make it make sense.

What in the Zensursula are you people doing?! I feel like I’m the only person on this planet who never accidentally stumbled upon CSAM on any website, including on Motherless.

Edit: Yep, checked again, nothing really there. Another bullshit post from the negative reputation troll.

It’s not that easy. Such a move could alienate more moderate voters, causing them to lose even more to labour.

An avalanche is just a snowy landslide.

Hence why they’re usually called loitering munition in official military language.

I’d say this is the appropriate time to actually use it and it has been overused for rather marginal leads before.

No, I’m actually with them on that one. The he / they issue in of itself is tiny, I agree, and if they’d just changed it from gendered to gender neutral language then nobody would’ve even cared. Most of us tend to write in a gendered way out of habit or because we think about our own gender, and in a casual conversation that isn’t that important. But this is about a piece of software that, surely, is not just meant for male audiences. It’s just unprofessional to address someone as male by default. Most importantly though, being this stubborn on having the user specifically male is just a weird hill to die on, but even weirder if that particular action is the one that is actually causing the drama - which they allegedly claim wanting to prevent by dismissing “politics”. And I’m sorry, but changing a “he” to “they” is not politics, it’s just including non male users. Nothing more, nothing less. So why is it such an issue to not just address specifically male users? It really only would be because those people hold some very questionable views, which, in my opinion, clash heavily with the whole concept of free and open source software, which is supposedly for everyone. So if your actions and views are this flawed, how can you be trusted on such an important project?

Also, in regards to this news… “no code from rivals” also is just a stupid thing to say and do. There’s plenty of good open source code that they could and probably even SHOULD use. But whatever. I’m not gonna support this project and predict it will fail anyway.

It’s not just porn and technically you can turn the explicit display off and just use all the other features and add-on mods for it.

Not sure when the last time was exactly, a couple years ago maybe. Until it refused to work without updating it, and the update of course caused it to not work anymore and also nuke all my Skyrim mods with it.

My main gripe with it is how confusing and unintuitive it is though. So even if I were to go through the bother of trying to get it running on Linux again, I’d have to first know that it would’ve improved on that front. But with the new app coming and MO2 running much better and being much more intuitive, I don’t really see the point.

WickedWhims has this for years.

I feel at this point a lot of Gen Z isn’t even aware of some of those companies that ruined the MMO market.

Same. Vortex was so convoluted and confusing to use. Currently using MO2 which works okayish under Linux but I want a proper native mod manager for Bethesda games.

Granted, I’m generally not a huge fan of Nexus, but them going cross platform with this is a very good thing and also shows how far Linux has come that we see this sort of attention now.

There’s r2modman for a lot of games, which is a native Linux mod manager using the Thunderstore for its mods. There’s also ModOrganizer2 which can work somewhat okayish on Linux but Protontricks, which is a dependency, is currently a sore spot. https://github.com/rockerbacon/modorganizer2-linux-installer

Hopefully it is not as unintuitive and confusing as Vortex. That was probably the absolute worst mod manager I have ever used. But we definitely do need some Linux compatible mod manager for Bethesda games (r2modman covers a lot of other ones already).

You’re confused. Kadyrovites are generally referred to as “tiktok brigade” since they’re typically more busy recording themselves while shooting at empty buildings or the forest, far away from the front, than actually being active participants in the war.

OPs syntax is a little confusing though (he might’ve just copied the title / description of wherever he got that video from). 2-300 makes it sound like from 2 to 300, or some direct connection between the 2 and 300. 2x 300s would’ve been more clear.