Come on now dude. A link. That is shamefully lazy and nowhere as clever as you feel. Are you just another mindless drone that just happens to have latched on this flavour of radical political ideas? Could you just as well have stumbled across something else in those formative days and became a parrot of QAnon/MAGA? Since you make such strong statements, surely you are capable of explaining by yourself in your own words? Or is it all just identity and clout and memes and maybe some ChatGPT but really nothing more?
if you were actually interested, I would say join the db0 Anarchism channel on matrix so you could ask questions and have them answered by dozens of anarchists, as well as get recommendations for further reading beyond the AFAQ.
but we both know you’re asking this in bad faith with no intention of doing more than scoffing at the idea. so no, I’m not going to waste my breath on you. the memes in this comm aren’t for you, as evidenced by your need to even ask what it is we’re looking for, and none of us are under any obligation to cater to your demands.
I’ll spend time talking to you when shit gets bad enough you’re radicalized. until then, you’re an adversary and you can fuck right off.
General strike at a bare minimum, which the government will almost certainly respond to violently anyway, so probably violent resistance whether we like it or not
Yeah I bet we’d be in exactly the same position right now if non fascist infighting hadn’t handed republicans the house, senate, and presidency.
I’m sure kamala would have cut funding to everything useful and given executive power to elon musk and sold our national parks to the oil companies and built a private gestapo and legalized stopping brown people for being brown and put massive tariffs on everything and given the CDC to an evil dipshit and I’m sure a blue majority senate and house would have approved all of that.
Good thing everyone screaming about the genocide made so many people lose hope or it might still be going on.
Wait, trump did end the palastinian conflict, right?
You cannot blame voters for a reactions they had to a political party’s actions, especially when that action was to aid a genocidal campaign.
Although OP is being extreme by saying they are the same, so are you when you try to explain away the fucking shit show last election.
They could have told Israel to pound sand, instead they screwed us over. Stop scapegoating bro, the Democrats gave him the win when they started throwing punches at their own base.
I understand that the dems are dogshit and couldn’t get a rally behind them. But the fascists needed to be wiped out completely. We could have rallied against the rebublicans, and had more time to change the parties in power, but now we won’t be likely to get the chance to oust them ever again.
We have been shown with every election for the last half a century that anytime conservatives get power, they make it harder to take away, and make the world a worse place.
I don’t blame the voters, but I’m unhappy with all the people who thought this was the time to try to make a point to the dems by convincing others they shouldn’t vote against fascism. They didn’t try it when it was romney. They didn’t try it when it was bush and Carey, they decided the correct time to sow infighting was an actual real fascist with a team of sycophants who want to make him a king.
And most who decided they didn’t want to support the dems probably didn’t go to the polls at all, since it’s far too common for dipshit Americans to thinknonly the presidential campaign matters, so now not only is the president a king, but the down ballot positions support him as well.
The christofascists were always going to vote en mass for one side, as they always have. We were supposed to try and stop them. Now antifa is a terrorist group. People are being arrested for wearing free palastine shirts. Being queer is considered a mental illness. Wearing a mask at a protest is a crime. The mass surveillance that never should have started in the first place is not only strengthened, it’s data is for sale.
Everything just got a lot worse, and changing it just got a lot harder.
To put it succinctly, I see the voters as having gotten roped into doing something stupid because of the pure horror of the situation. The dems had a much better idea of the consequences and also helped build the situation. I also think that while not voting was the wrong move to make, it’s also understandable. What the Democrats did was a bad move but it also makes no sense and was overall reprehensible behavior.
Everybody sucks type of situation but some more than others.
More importantly, I also think the old guard needs to be ousted from the party and that won’t happen if they have a convenient scapegoat.
We haven’t been a democracy since we allowed companies to buy politicians. We’ve had two sides to choose from, kind of, which are: ‘hardly does anything’ and ‘actively makes everything worse for everyone immediately’.
Genocide wasn’t on the ballot. Anyone who thought trump would stop it was wrong, as anyone who thought about it for a second had been telling them.
So now that those are out of the way, how does that idealistic high horse help every person whose life is now actively worse now?
You’re then caputulating to the rules in an unjust society. If we don’t have a democracy in which we can extract concessions and enact the will of the people, why are you so bent about this “democratic” vote.
Almost correct. Third parties exist, and not voting exists. The democrats failed to have a platform that made people want to vote for them. You hold the position that the democrats can’t fail, they can only be failed. Blaming voters doesn’t work.
Things aren’t better now. They’ve been steadily getting worse under every administration. Electoralist liberal brain rot is keeping your mind in this neat little box where you can’t imagine a different world outside of dogshit and worse dogshit.
Everyone? Third party wins in a landslide. The plurality of eligible voters don’t vote. If you mean magically all democrats and a third party got the votes last time, the same outcome as this election.
People chose the couch, they didn’t choose Trump. Both parties lost voters since last election, democrats just lost many more.
But you’re still in this electoralist mindset in a system that is inherently undemocratic. You’re missing the forest for the trees.
Direct action does not mean “don’t also vote to make it harder for the fascists.”
Only two options were valid for the majority of election positions. We could have bought more time to fill local positions with third parties and progressives, but instead we’re building concentration camps and cutting any progress we’ve made in the last 20 years.
Primero q xuxa??? Borre el coemntario pq preferi no perder mi tiempo discutiendo con mierdas q solo terminan ayudando a nazis, segundo en serio no te olvidas??? pq no se nota, tercero chupalo nazi ql
the irony of you calling me a nazi and insisting on using spanish as some sort of silly attack. is english too good for people you consider nazis, but spanish isn’t? why the internalized racism?
I hope one day you get past this self hate and learn to love yourself and your heritage.
If only two candidates had the possibility of winning, and neither of them were going to change that particular issue, then it held no bearing on the election. Pretending that it could be changed and sowing apathy in voters gave full power to the fascists.
So, is the world a better place now? Or is everyone worse off than we could have been while the genocide is still happening regardless?
Kamala could have won easily if she and the rest of the corporate dems stopped taking that AIPAC money, meaningfully opposed genocide, and did anything at all to address our absurd wealth disparity, they chose not to because the only thing they actually give a shit about is getting paid
not when they’re voting with trump and have said they don’t want to be an opposition party, no.
So what is your solution? What is the plan?
they’ve decided against the ballot, so I guess the bullet.
And what will the results be? What is it you intend to achieve, short term and long term?
liberation for the people, and liberation for the people.
Can you expand in more informative terms than clever soundbites?
yes.
https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/index.html
Come on now dude. A link. That is shamefully lazy and nowhere as clever as you feel. Are you just another mindless drone that just happens to have latched on this flavour of radical political ideas? Could you just as well have stumbled across something else in those formative days and became a parrot of QAnon/MAGA? Since you make such strong statements, surely you are capable of explaining by yourself in your own words? Or is it all just identity and clout and memes and maybe some ChatGPT but really nothing more?
if you were actually interested, I would say join the db0 Anarchism channel on matrix so you could ask questions and have them answered by dozens of anarchists, as well as get recommendations for further reading beyond the AFAQ.
but we both know you’re asking this in bad faith with no intention of doing more than scoffing at the idea. so no, I’m not going to waste my breath on you. the memes in this comm aren’t for you, as evidenced by your need to even ask what it is we’re looking for, and none of us are under any obligation to cater to your demands.
I’ll spend time talking to you when shit gets bad enough you’re radicalized. until then, you’re an adversary and you can fuck right off.
General strike at a bare minimum, which the government will almost certainly respond to violently anyway, so probably violent resistance whether we like it or not
Do it then.
Moronic response, if any one person alone could just decide to make this shit happen it would have happened by now
Hop hop
Moronic response, try harder
Moronic response, try harder
You’re losing and you know it
Yeah I bet we’d be in exactly the same position right now if non fascist infighting hadn’t handed republicans the house, senate, and presidency.
I’m sure kamala would have cut funding to everything useful and given executive power to elon musk and sold our national parks to the oil companies and built a private gestapo and legalized stopping brown people for being brown and put massive tariffs on everything and given the CDC to an evil dipshit and I’m sure a blue majority senate and house would have approved all of that.
Good thing everyone screaming about the genocide made so many people lose hope or it might still be going on.
Wait, trump did end the palastinian conflict, right?
You cannot blame voters for a reactions they had to a political party’s actions, especially when that action was to aid a genocidal campaign.
Although OP is being extreme by saying they are the same, so are you when you try to explain away the fucking shit show last election.
They could have told Israel to pound sand, instead they screwed us over. Stop scapegoating bro, the Democrats gave him the win when they started throwing punches at their own base.
I understand that the dems are dogshit and couldn’t get a rally behind them. But the fascists needed to be wiped out completely. We could have rallied against the rebublicans, and had more time to change the parties in power, but now we won’t be likely to get the chance to oust them ever again. We have been shown with every election for the last half a century that anytime conservatives get power, they make it harder to take away, and make the world a worse place.
I don’t blame the voters, but I’m unhappy with all the people who thought this was the time to try to make a point to the dems by convincing others they shouldn’t vote against fascism. They didn’t try it when it was romney. They didn’t try it when it was bush and Carey, they decided the correct time to sow infighting was an actual real fascist with a team of sycophants who want to make him a king.
And most who decided they didn’t want to support the dems probably didn’t go to the polls at all, since it’s far too common for dipshit Americans to thinknonly the presidential campaign matters, so now not only is the president a king, but the down ballot positions support him as well.
The christofascists were always going to vote en mass for one side, as they always have. We were supposed to try and stop them. Now antifa is a terrorist group. People are being arrested for wearing free palastine shirts. Being queer is considered a mental illness. Wearing a mask at a protest is a crime. The mass surveillance that never should have started in the first place is not only strengthened, it’s data is for sale.
Everything just got a lot worse, and changing it just got a lot harder.
Hard to disagree with anything you just said.
To put it succinctly, I see the voters as having gotten roped into doing something stupid because of the pure horror of the situation. The dems had a much better idea of the consequences and also helped build the situation. I also think that while not voting was the wrong move to make, it’s also understandable. What the Democrats did was a bad move but it also makes no sense and was overall reprehensible behavior.
Everybody sucks type of situation but some more than others.
More importantly, I also think the old guard needs to be ousted from the party and that won’t happen if they have a convenient scapegoat.
I get the frustration aimed at voters though.
Can you answer two questions for me.
What is the purpose of having a democracy?
Is it ever morally correct to affirmatively vote for a genocide?
We haven’t been a democracy since we allowed companies to buy politicians. We’ve had two sides to choose from, kind of, which are: ‘hardly does anything’ and ‘actively makes everything worse for everyone immediately’.
Genocide wasn’t on the ballot. Anyone who thought trump would stop it was wrong, as anyone who thought about it for a second had been telling them.
So now that those are out of the way, how does that idealistic high horse help every person whose life is now actively worse now?
You’re then caputulating to the rules in an unjust society. If we don’t have a democracy in which we can extract concessions and enact the will of the people, why are you so bent about this “democratic” vote.
Almost correct. Third parties exist, and not voting exists. The democrats failed to have a platform that made people want to vote for them. You hold the position that the democrats can’t fail, they can only be failed. Blaming voters doesn’t work.
Things aren’t better now. They’ve been steadily getting worse under every administration. Electoralist liberal brain rot is keeping your mind in this neat little box where you can’t imagine a different world outside of dogshit and worse dogshit.
Let’s say everyone who isn’t Maga voted third party. What does the electoral college do?
Everyone? Third party wins in a landslide. The plurality of eligible voters don’t vote. If you mean magically all democrats and a third party got the votes last time, the same outcome as this election.
People chose the couch, they didn’t choose Trump. Both parties lost voters since last election, democrats just lost many more.
But you’re still in this electoralist mindset in a system that is inherently undemocratic. You’re missing the forest for the trees.
so why are you trying to get people to engage in a sham, then? are you working with the fascists to try and dampen direct action?
Direct action does not mean “don’t also vote to make it harder for the fascists.” Only two options were valid for the majority of election positions. We could have bought more time to fill local positions with third parties and progressives, but instead we’re building concentration camps and cutting any progress we’ve made in the last 20 years.
wait, did kamala or biden say they didn’t support Israel?
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no, I didn’t forget about latinos, because I’m mexican you shitlib
Primero q xuxa??? Borre el coemntario pq preferi no perder mi tiempo discutiendo con mierdas q solo terminan ayudando a nazis, segundo en serio no te olvidas??? pq no se nota, tercero chupalo nazi ql
the irony of you calling me a nazi and insisting on using spanish as some sort of silly attack. is english too good for people you consider nazis, but spanish isn’t? why the internalized racism?
I hope one day you get past this self hate and learn to love yourself and your heritage.
If only two candidates had the possibility of winning, and neither of them were going to change that particular issue, then it held no bearing on the election. Pretending that it could be changed and sowing apathy in voters gave full power to the fascists.
So, is the world a better place now? Or is everyone worse off than we could have been while the genocide is still happening regardless?
“if I think nothing can be changed, why bother?”
That’s exactly what I’m saying. There are so many other issues to consider, but they were disregarded because of one issue that has not changed.
It’s still happening, and now we’re also building concentration camps.
Kamala could have won easily if she and the rest of the corporate dems stopped taking that AIPAC money, meaningfully opposed genocide, and did anything at all to address our absurd wealth disparity, they chose not to because the only thing they actually give a shit about is getting paid