• Since we’re starting this debate again, I do wish to ask the people that think the Soviets shouldn’t have gone into Poland: what should the Soviets have done?

    With benefit of hindsight and access to whatever formerly-secret documents, what is the best course of action for them?

    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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      2 months ago

      I mean they could’ve not made a pact with Nazi Germany to jointly divide Eastern Europe. Like start from that.

      And before anyone mentions, that includes others who made pacts with them too.

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        2 months ago

        Them: “so what should they have done?”

        You: “Well I’ll tell you what they shouldn’t have done!”

        So, in short, you can’t actually answer the question.

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          2 months ago

          Refuse to enable Nazi expansion, prepare for war, try to make allies. So carry on before they chose to make a pact. Making that pact with Nazis wasn’t some inevitable law of nature they just had to do. You can always resist.

          There’s always a reason for all kinds of actions but it’s just an attempt to avoid moral scrutiny to present the situation as inevitable. There were other options, they chose not to do those but rather made a pact. Agree or disagree with the decision from moral or some realpolitik sense, doesn’t matter. Presenting it as inevitable is avoidance.

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            2 months ago

            molotow-ribbentrop was to buy time to prepare for war. They built a huge industrial complex east of the Ural to prepare since they correctly predicted that their facilities in the west would soon be overrun. They also tried to find allies but were shut down at every turn. When it was clear that there were no allies to be found and every other nation had made a non-aggression pact with the nazis only then did they resort to making their own.