A crop of conservative personalities such as Brett Cooper and Candace Owens, and outlets like Evie, are convincing young women of a gender-essentialist worldview

  • ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    2 hours ago

    If you step back and put on your Marco View lens, you finally seeing how money and power controls Americans and seeing capitalism tactics. Remember those “10 ways to get skinny” or “how to have better sex?” Magazines in the grocery store? That’s them being in the open now. Oh and today’s version is 90% influencers and YouTubers. Damn snake oil sales people.

  • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    7 hours ago

    The manosphere worked to indoctrinate men because it seemed to give solution for their anger and “empower” them, though the way it did was shitty.

    There is no empowering through the “womanosphere”. It is yet another stupid box they want to shove women into. The movements are far from equal in any discernible way.

  • Eldritch@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    16 hours ago

    Anyone who listens to obvious Hypocrites like them will only suffer. If they believe in this message so much. They should give up their media positions and all go home and make a sandwich for their husbands. No disrespect to any man or woman who does that. It should be your choice. But not your destiny and role in life. It’s absurd that they act like the feminism implies that a woman can’t do that if she wishes to.

  • hotspur@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    15 hours ago

    How does one “be fertile”? You either are, or you aren’t. I guess they’re saying they should just have lots of babies? Anyhow, gross, just like the other online grifts/psyops.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      12 hours ago

      My guess is that it’s anti-contraceptive garbage.

      The pill = no babies = not fertile = not a real woman.

      • hotspur@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 hours ago

        Yeah after I wrote that later on it sorta just popped up — oh this is probably just meaning “don’t take birth control”.

    • Broadfern@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      15 hours ago

      Double edged grift! Suffer by feeling you’re not being “womanly” enough no matter what you do, and only feel minorly deserving of praise once you’ve depleted yourself of all your own efforts and self esteem 🤡 that way you’re willing to buy whatever snake oil they’re selling.

      • hotspur@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        14 hours ago

        Ah yeah, forgot that angle. My partner was researching that recently, that shit is expensive (not to mention any unpleasant side effects you might have on it). I can’t imagine a plausible scenario where young, non-married women who aren’t already actively trying to get pregnant would just take that stuff though.

  • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    edit-2
    16 hours ago

    I mean, its fine to try to be healthy and exercise daily, but that activity doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be thin, fertile, or Republican.

    For any young women reading this, I hope you understand that you aren’t obligated to conform to any standard at all. I hope you are happy, healthy, and have great friends / family who look out for you and support you for you.

    • Broadfern@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      15 hours ago

      I don’t remember the original author of the quote but there goes a wise saying as follows:

      “You don’t owe the world being pretty as rent for existing as a woman.” The same goes for reproduction, childcare, or any other unpaid labor.

      By virtue of being human you are owed the bare minimum basic rights of dignity and respect to your personhood.

      You never need to apologize for being a woman and anyone who acts like you do, especially if you dare not conform to their ideals, can go lick the bottom of a crusty shoe.

      (And in case this isn’t clear; I mean ALL women. TERFs fuck off)

    • GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      15 hours ago

      For some reason women are all doing weighted hip thrusts at the gym. I guess it enlargens your glutes, but it’s fuckin’ weird. Must be some tiktok shit.

    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      4 hours ago

      Nothing bad about being thin tbh.

      Agreed. There is nothing wrong about being thin.

      Men should strive for that as well. Obesity is unhealthy.

      No, thinness in and of itself isn’t something to pursue other than for vanity. A person isn’t made any healthier by magically becoming thin. I’ve seen that with my own eyes, knowing someone who has had bariatric surgery and lost 165 lbs.

      And if someone is pursuing it out of vanity, significant weight loss will age your appearance considerably.

      • Realitätsverlust@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        4 hours ago

        A person isn’t made any healthier by magically becoming thin.

        Not really true. Your joints will thank you for the lower weight they have to support. However, I do agree that that is not the good way. You should work out and eat less junk food/sweets/fatty stuff. Doing that will make you healthier, and getting thin is a natural byproduct of that.

          • Realitätsverlust@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 hours ago

            They will certainly have some problems later on. Many professional body builders are having joint and bone issues. Markus Rühl once gave an interview where he said (roughly translated) “My body is basically a wreck. My body is just kept together by the muscles”.

            However, muscles are also supporting the body, fat doesn’t. So while having excessive muscles will be a problem at some point, being fat is a much bigger problem much earlier.

        • MagicShel@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 hours ago

          Less weight on the joints sure, but reactive hypoglycemia and iron deficiency also. Less weight on the joint can help you pursue health by making activity less destructive to joints, but if you don’t become more active, being thin does nothing by itself. Sounds like we are largely in agreement but I don’t think being thin is a goal at all. Obesity is a bar set too low. I think my wife might be back to obese at 150lbs, and she is still thin af to me. Sex sucked when she was skin and bones.

          • Realitätsverlust@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 hours ago

            being thin does nothing by itself

            Yes, basically. You have to pursue the healthy lifestyle that leads to being thing is what I’m trying to say.

      • lowside@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        4 hours ago

        Thinner does not equate health, one can not be truly healthy while obese. It is Terrible for your body. Pretty much every organ system is working overtime and struggling. There is inflammation everywhere, your joints are suffering.

        The healthy at any size stuff is a massive lie.

        Yes, skinny people and regular sized people get sick too. Just like people who don’t smoke can still get lung cancer.