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      We bombed civilian water supplies and infrastructure which led to over 300K dead. Far worse than the official figures from Gaza. No, we do not have the moral high ground to criticize the houthis. We are in fact more amoral and bloodthirsty than them. 👊🇺🇸🔥

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        We did not kill 300k in Yemen.

        The actions of the USA can be unacceptable without making the criminality of the Houthi acceptable.

        Anyone arguing that there is any moral high ground for the Houthi to grab will have to explain how stealing the food out if the hands of starving children is an acceptable action because that’s a common thing for them to do.

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          We armed the Saudis and provided targeting for them to destroy Yemeni water supplies and other civilian infrastructure. We then also blockaded and starved the people of Yemen which led to +300k dead.

          I also don’t trust the accusation that the Ansarallah deliberately starved their own people when it comes from the nation causing the food shortage in the first place. Its far more likely that they seized aide to distribute themselves to maintain loyalty. Not a moral practice but I’ve only ever said that we are worse.

          Kill the jingoist in your head.

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            Ok so the Saudis purchased arms from is that they used to attack the Houti after the Houthi started the civil war and after they attacked KSA.

            You are assigning the total dead in the Yemeni Civil War to Saudi Arabia and not the party that literally started the war, why? How can the people drawn into the war be responsible for all the dead and not the party that started the conflict? It is a civil war after all.

            I would suggest you look into the history of this conflict since you keep claiming the perpetrators of the conflict are somehow victims.

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              The civil war started with the Arab spring the ousting of the president and the installation of a Saudi puppet against the wishes of the original protestors. Ansarallah formed as a response to that and even got the support of the original president. They have shown more interest in the well being of Yemeni people than Saudi Arabia and their genocidal campaign against the people of Yemen. Low bar for sure but easily cleared.

              The US has backed KSA to the hilt in the conflict just as they have with Israel in Gaza. In a way even more so because the Saudi’s are too fucking stupid to even select their own targets or refuel their jets. We’ve been basically holding their hands the entire way and they still lost.

              Like Jesus Christ buddy, I’m an american. If I hadn’t read up on this topic before I’d be giving you the bog standard jingoism that radiates this country.

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                  The KSA is to blame because they bombed civilian infrastructure and Yemeni water supply. Thats what im accusing them of and thats what they chose to do. Ansarallah firing the first shots doesn’t justify every war crime the Saudis do. Thats genocidal Zionist logic.

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                    You are blaming them for every single dead person in the conflict because they bombed the water supply? How does that make any sense at all?

                    Blaming the Houthi for every single dead person would make sense asthey are the instigators of the entire conflict and this war would not have started had they not chosen to attack. It would still be a bit of a stretch but it would never be as outright clownish as blaming an outside nation that was drawn into a civil war by attacks from parties in Yemen.

                    “That’s genocidal Zionist logic”

                    Do you think being racist grants you a higher ground?

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                The Civil War started when The Houthi Militia attacked the capital. They are the perpetrators of the whole conflict suggesting otherwise would be akin to suggesting it was the union’s fault that the confederates attacked Fort Sumner despite the obvious fact that one side started shooting first which in Yemen’s case is The Houthi.

                You looked it up in what sources because it seems like you used trash tier ones.

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                  Buddy the CSA wasn’t bad because they fired on Fort Sumner. They were bad because they were slavers. If the Union shot first they’d still be in the right. Grow a moral backbone. Ansarallah did not starve Yemen. The Saudis and the Americans did.

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                    I never said that is why the CSA was bad. He analogy is that the Houthi are not any more the resistance than the CSA were as the aggressor that starts a conflict cannot be the victim of it.

                    The whole narrative that the Houthi, who are without question the instigator of the entire conflict, are somehow victims is really gross and tone deaf.

                    The Houthi are in fact responsible for many if not most of the starvation at this point.