Cars have gotten bigger and safer. Sure, the engine is heavy but it isn’t massive battery packs causing that. A naturally aspirated V10 is a dinosaur, I’ve no interest in dead end tech. We must keep at least the kinetic recovery and electric turbos imo. Lithium is light even, lets make that part a monster
Technology making cars faster is what f1 is about. The v10 made 1,000 hp and weighed 120kg, the motor & engine in today’s cars make about 1,000hp but weigh close to 200kg when battery, motor, and engine are considered.
Electric turbos are amazing and F1 should push for efficiency, as that’s way more relevant than “synthetic fuels” imo.
Something to consider is that as long as cars are fueled for the whole race, engine efficiency also reduces weight. Per this article
In the V8 era, thermal efficiency peaked at 29%. With the introduction of the V6 turbo-hybrids in 2014, that figure leapt almost immediately to around 40% - and it now stands at over 50%.
If efficiency drops from 50% to 40% for example, because of the removal of MGU-H, engines will need 25 kg more fuel to deliver the same amount of energy.
The v10 may be dead as a passenger engine but for a race engine it’s still superior.
Electric motors and batteries have less performence per kg compared to an engine and fuel. If rules were changed and teams were allowed 300KG for an engine, fuel, motor, and battery you’d see teams use motors and batteries even less than then they do now.
Cars have gotten bigger and safer. Sure, the engine is heavy but it isn’t massive battery packs causing that. A naturally aspirated V10 is a dinosaur, I’ve no interest in dead end tech. We must keep at least the kinetic recovery and electric turbos imo. Lithium is light even, lets make that part a monster
Agree. This is an opportunity to improve the current regs, not regress to outdated technology. Literally the anti-thesis of F1
Technology making cars faster is what f1 is about. The v10 made 1,000 hp and weighed 120kg, the motor & engine in today’s cars make about 1,000hp but weigh close to 200kg when battery, motor, and engine are considered.
Electric turbos are amazing and F1 should push for efficiency, as that’s way more relevant than “synthetic fuels” imo. Something to consider is that as long as cars are fueled for the whole race, engine efficiency also reduces weight. Per this article
If efficiency drops from 50% to 40% for example, because of the removal of MGU-H, engines will need 25 kg more fuel to deliver the same amount of energy.
Go back to the V10 with their amazing sound, minimal electronics & batteries. Lighter cars, maybe even refueling during the races.
So make everything less safe. Got it.
Size and to a great extent weight do not make a car safer.
You’d be wrong.
Also refueling was eliminated because it is unsafe. We don’t want that back.
So now we’re talking about refueling?
The v10 may be dead as a passenger engine but for a race engine it’s still superior.
Electric motors and batteries have less performence per kg compared to an engine and fuel. If rules were changed and teams were allowed 300KG for an engine, fuel, motor, and battery you’d see teams use motors and batteries even less than then they do now.