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    8 hours ago

    The Democrats didn’t but the base was sure pissed about it. That party is constantly under fire from its own base because of how much they rely on being the only option that isn’t full-blown insane-o fascism. The country at its core is broken and in a way that constantly reinforces itself. I do not envy the people who have to put the work in to fix it.

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      The Democrats are also full-blown insano fascist. It’s the same party pretending to be two. That’s why they’re both backing this genocide. That’s why the Democrats always manage to produce enough votes to help the GOP secure their votes. It’s why the Democrats sue anyone farther left off the ballots.

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        Why are you putting this much effort to troll when bots can do it for you.

        Your position benefits oligarchy.

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          I’m just stating facts y’all don’t like, because they’re unflattering to your preferred flavor of fascism.

          I’m not going to be peer pressured into supporting either fascist party. Grow a spine.

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        For sure, but the country has no other options. It’s like asking someone if they would prefer to be punched or stabbed and then claiming they enjoy the punching. You didn’t have “get a hug” as an option so stop acting like it’s there.

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          So you want to fix things by electing the people who broke them in the first place. Genius.

          If two people are trying to kill you, you don’t pick which one to ally with. You defend yourself against both of your enemies.

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            That’s not what I said, but ai don’t know if what I say really matters to you more than acting smug does. Also, I live in a country with more than two parties and I do not participate in “strategic voting”.

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              It’s exactly what you said. It’s just not how you want it to be interpreted, because it doesn’t align with your self-image.

              A lot of people are groomed into supporting fascism by being made to believe they are somehow opposing it by backing a certain fascist. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are doing this right now.

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                The only way to read your comment as having any level of intelligence implies that there is a third option I’m missing. So what’s your alternative, then?

                And “no one votes for the Democrats while knowing that the nation is full of people who can’t afford to take the risk of a Republican administration” is not an alternative. I get the sentiment, but it’s not happening. I’d say it should be primaries, but the DNC doesn’t really do those and their weird, sequential primary is designed to allow them to shape the outcome as it happens.

                So please, enlighten us.

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                  So then all your enemy has to do to convince you to surrender, is convince you that they are two enemies, and the next one will be worse.

                  Democrats are killing people too. Not all of us are willing to continue sacrificing those people to maintain our privilege.

                  The only viable & moral option is revolution.

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                    You haven’t really answered my question, and I literally already told you that I know that the DNC uses that exact tactic. I also explained that I don’t vote that way. Gosh, you’re stupid.

                    So what are you doing to start this revolution? What advice to you have for people who want to join in and do real, tangible work like that? Do you understand how big of a jump it’s going to be for the most vulnerable people to go from scarce instability to guaranteed instability and do you understand how scared they are and that they aren’t pawns in your little moral soapboxing?

                    You talk about not wanting to sacrifice people but you’re demanding they be the foot soldiers in your revolution.