I do and I’ve never had this problem. Ever. If the system goes down it’s rarely for more than a few hours, at which point i live my life, since I understand shit happens and servers sometimes fail.
I dunno what your complaint is exactly but I get great value out of that yearly fee
In the distant past of like 2000, you didn’t have to pay for online functionality. Also, people could host their own multiplayer servers. It was nice. Consoles and capitalism did a team-up to make things shittier for the end user, though.
The online is the last reason I pay for psplus, you think I wanna play online with you people? I hate online gaming. I have psplus for all the games, all of which I play. So great value for me
Did you not just read about how I play pretty much everything on there? It’s so weird hating a game company so much that you get mad when someone else gets value for their money
This has actually happened before multiple times. Why pay for internet usage also? You all are getting scammed. You know consoles even used to have free internet as well, the PS2 HDD glory days.
You get zero value out of that fee, they are literally just taking your money. The fact you cannot see this is extremely sad
(The higher tiers cost $135 and $160 annually, respectively, and you don’t get to own a single game you play from the Game Catalog™, which itself honestly looks mid as fuck.)
Do you think psplus is online gaming access only? The monthly games and catalogue games always have something new for me to play. I play PlayStation a minimum of 2 hours a day and I haven’t had to buy a game since I got psplus and a library card. Half the games on my list end up on psplus within months.
Maybe you yourself don’t see the value but I get plenty out of it. I played over 100 different games this year and it only cost me $80 a year
This is so so weird, to hate a game company so much that you get this worked up over someone else finding value in their service. Let me guess you’re one of the steam fanboys that thinks that your billionaire and his corporation are somehow more moral cause you post funny Gabe memes
PSN being down is a tale as old as time. When the PS3 was out and before the PS4 was announced PSN had been down like at least once a month. It was well known as the least reliable gaming network. Even though Nintendo had their “Nintendo WiFi Connection” which was basically P2P and super garbage, it did not go down like PSN did.
Xbox Live was vastly more reliable, likely because Microsoft has a better understanding of how to run a network, and they took the subscription money and reinvested it back into Xbox Live, growing and bolstering it to the point that it has its reputation for being the most reliable of the 3 gaming networks.
The complaint is that online on PC is free like it should be, not this ridiculous $80/year bullshit that console manufacturers can lock you into their ecosystem and force you to do.
If I’m paying $80/year for a service that’s free on an already better platform, you’d better believe that it going down for this long (or basically at all) would be totally unacceptable.
If you have kids the fact the system is locked in becomes something of an advantage. MS and Sony are pretty aggressive moderating accounts when it comes to people being inappropriate around kids which is something you can’t get as easily on PC.
For 12+ 20 hours? Literally never, actually, in the 8 years with them (maybe 2 hours at most, maybe 5 total outages ever?), and there isn’t a simultaneously free and better alternative. This fee is just there to gouge; it shouldn’t even exist.
You all constantly bitch about having to troubleshoot just to play games
Projecting much? lmfao, sorry it’s too hard for you to navigate booting up a computer, installing Steam, downloading a game, and running it, I guess. That daunting task that needs so much troubleshooting.
And besides that, a decent PC is functionally as cheap as a console when you account for online services (I’ve owned my PC for 8 years and then an additional $200 for a CPU replacement that I did of my own volition; at $80 annually, that’s $640 for online services alone, more than doubling the price of your console) and the price of games. The reason your console is cheap at the time of purchase is because it’s a loss leader. For that same amount or possibly even less, you get exactly as much flexibility as you want in everything you do, from the desktop hardware itself, to the peripherals, to the games (overwhelmingly more extensive), to the mods for the games, to backwards compat (too bad the PS5 isn’t backwards compatible with PS2 games and instead uses trashy, bootleg emulation dressed up as a “port” and sold back to you for $30; I can emulate any game I own for free meanwhile, including PS3 games), to workflow, to OS, to privacy, to look and feel, to online store I use, to software installed, to incremental upgrades. And of course a PC can do a million things a console categorically can’t on top of that; some people don’t live life just to play video games.
Peak copium that WoW = PC, meanwhile staring at thousands of online games that can be played online completely for free. Didn’t realize the PSN fee was only for a very select few online games of a specific genre which I can actively avoid.
You all are essentially stuck with fucking Microsoft
Who’s “you all”? I don’t even use Windows, you goof, and all of my games play trivially and excellently. You’re the one stuck with a massive, shitty corporation, not me. lmfao
Imagine paying $80 annually for this mediocre trash.
Edit: Down for 20 hours.
I do and I’ve never had this problem. Ever. If the system goes down it’s rarely for more than a few hours, at which point i live my life, since I understand shit happens and servers sometimes fail. I dunno what your complaint is exactly but I get great value out of that yearly fee
In the distant past of like 2000, you didn’t have to pay for online functionality. Also, people could host their own multiplayer servers. It was nice. Consoles and capitalism did a team-up to make things shittier for the end user, though.
But you did? I paid for GameSpy back in the day. And MMOs had fees to play online.
Things change a lot in 25 years. Servers aren’t free
Yet PC players don’t have to pay for servers
Fans were happy to run the servers at their own expense.
The online is the last reason I pay for psplus, you think I wanna play online with you people? I hate online gaming. I have psplus for all the games, all of which I play. So great value for me
you pay a monthly fee for videogames just so you can not play them?
Did you not just read about how I play pretty much everything on there? It’s so weird hating a game company so much that you get mad when someone else gets value for their money
i’m not mad.
you seem to be.
You are the only one hating everyones comments.
What is weird is defending paying to play online
Unlike other companies that just add the server costs to the games themselves and you think you’re somehow not paying that fee
This has actually happened before multiple times. Why pay for internet usage also? You all are getting scammed. You know consoles even used to have free internet as well, the PS2 HDD glory days.
You get zero value out of that fee, they are literally just taking your money. The fact you cannot see this is extremely sad
Does PS+ not give free games anymore?
I kept hearing this free games. Will you be keeping the game if you unsub?
Nope, but if you resub you’ll get the games back.
So not free at all then lmao. Subscriptions for games? Yikes
subscriptions for games! thats exactly what i wanted!
It does and I always have something new to play between the monthly and catalogue games. Some people think it’s only for online access i guess
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(The higher tiers cost $135 and $160 annually, respectively, and you don’t get to own a single game you play from the Game Catalog™, which itself honestly looks mid as fuck.)
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Do you think psplus is online gaming access only? The monthly games and catalogue games always have something new for me to play. I play PlayStation a minimum of 2 hours a day and I haven’t had to buy a game since I got psplus and a library card. Half the games on my list end up on psplus within months. Maybe you yourself don’t see the value but I get plenty out of it. I played over 100 different games this year and it only cost me $80 a year
Do you think that exists because you are being charged a fee? What a joke lmao.
You dont even wanna know pc gaming sales then.
Plus As soon as you end your ps plus you cant even access those free games anymore. You are getting royally scammed
This is so so weird, to hate a game company so much that you get this worked up over someone else finding value in their service. Let me guess you’re one of the steam fanboys that thinks that your billionaire and his corporation are somehow more moral cause you post funny Gabe memes
What game company do I hate?
The weird thing is getting this worked up and then defending a fee that is scamming you.
That is what is so so weird.
PSN being down is a tale as old as time. When the PS3 was out and before the PS4 was announced PSN had been down like at least once a month. It was well known as the least reliable gaming network. Even though Nintendo had their “Nintendo WiFi Connection” which was basically P2P and super garbage, it did not go down like PSN did.
Xbox Live was vastly more reliable, likely because Microsoft has a better understanding of how to run a network, and they took the subscription money and reinvested it back into Xbox Live, growing and bolstering it to the point that it has its reputation for being the most reliable of the 3 gaming networks.
The complaint is that online on PC is free like it should be, not this ridiculous $80/year bullshit that console manufacturers can lock you into their ecosystem and force you to do.
If I’m paying $80/year for a service that’s free on an already better platform, you’d better believe that it going down for this long (or basically at all) would be totally unacceptable.
If you have kids the fact the system is locked in becomes something of an advantage. MS and Sony are pretty aggressive moderating accounts when it comes to people being inappropriate around kids which is something you can’t get as easily on PC.
Already better platform? That is seriously subjective statement.
Grow up, life isn’t perfect. You act like your WiFi you’ve paid for has never gone down before.
But you are paying for a sub on top of your WiFi, you dont even have an argument. The fee shouldnt even exist
For
12+20 hours? Literally never, actually, in the 8 years with them (maybe 2 hours at most, maybe 5 total outages ever?), and there isn’t a simultaneously free and better alternative. This fee is just there to gouge; it shouldn’t even exist.Cope harder.
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Projecting much? lmfao, sorry it’s too hard for you to navigate booting up a computer, installing Steam, downloading a game, and running it, I guess. That daunting task that needs so much troubleshooting.
And besides that, a decent PC is functionally as cheap as a console when you account for online services (I’ve owned my PC for 8 years and then an additional $200 for a CPU replacement that I did of my own volition; at $80 annually, that’s $640 for online services alone, more than doubling the price of your console) and the price of games. The reason your console is cheap at the time of purchase is because it’s a loss leader. For that same amount or possibly even less, you get exactly as much flexibility as you want in everything you do, from the desktop hardware itself, to the peripherals, to the games (overwhelmingly more extensive), to the mods for the games, to backwards compat (too bad the PS5 isn’t backwards compatible with PS2 games and instead uses trashy, bootleg emulation dressed up as a “port” and sold back to you for $30; I can emulate any game I own for free meanwhile, including PS3 games), to workflow, to OS, to privacy, to look and feel, to online store I use, to software installed, to incremental upgrades. And of course a PC can do a million things a console categorically can’t on top of that; some people don’t live life just to play video games.
Projection, who needs to grow up exactly? You are defending something that shouldnt even exist
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Peak copium that WoW = PC, meanwhile staring at thousands of online games that can be played online completely for free. Didn’t realize the PSN fee was only for a very select few online games of a specific genre which I can actively avoid.
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Who’s “you all”? I don’t even use Windows, you goof, and all of my games play trivially and excellently. You’re the one stuck with a massive, shitty corporation, not me. lmfao