You pretending that your lifetime commitment of supporting an animal abuse industry doesn’t lead to blood shed is patronozing lol. You can make your own hoops and pretend they don’t lead to suffering but they do. You are responsible for their deaths if you pay for them. Stop making excuses to hurt more animals
there is no causation, unless you are saying farmers and abotoir workers and food supply workers and grocers don’t have free will. but they do, so there is no causation.
“Free will doesn’t exist thus I can do whatever I want” is a horrible hill to die on. A lot of these workers are stuck in the line of work if they want to get out, slaughter house immigrants or diary farmers trying to transition to plant based agriculture. You going to the grocery store when you have the option to buy a can of chickpeas and make some curry instead of buying chicken to make some curry is immoral
You pretending that your lifetime commitment of supporting an animal abuse industry doesn’t lead to blood shed is patronozing lol. You can make your own hoops and pretend they don’t lead to suffering but they do. You are responsible for their deaths if you pay for them. Stop making excuses to hurt more animals
patronizing would be me presuming how you should take care of your own needs.
I do take care of my own needs. And do the baseline of not causing unnecesary harm.
since there is no causal link between what i buy and what is produced, i’m in the same boat.
Then why do factory farms breed and murder animals?
it’s not murder.
It’s killing another being who’s morally significant. It’s murder. Just as killing someone’s dog is murder.
i do t know what you mean by morally significant
A being who has the capacity to suffer. Depriving someone of future experiences is suffering
It’s murder.
only by definitions that stretch the term to meaninglessness
Your inability to express kindness for victims doesn’t make the words meaningless. Don’t pay for murder
Yes there is
there is no causation, unless you are saying farmers and abotoir workers and food supply workers and grocers don’t have free will. but they do, so there is no causation.
“Free will doesn’t exist thus I can do whatever I want” is a horrible hill to die on. A lot of these workers are stuck in the line of work if they want to get out, slaughter house immigrants or diary farmers trying to transition to plant based agriculture. You going to the grocery store when you have the option to buy a can of chickpeas and make some curry instead of buying chicken to make some curry is immoral
I didn’t say free will doesn’t exist. I’m saying it does. so I can’t be responsible for what other people choose to do.
You encourage those people to do it, knowling that you don’t have to
your storytelling is not a substitute for causation.
It’s literally how it works, it’s not story telling
the story you tell doesn’t reflect reality.
How does it not
there is no causal link between consuming something and more of it being made.
Yes there is lmao
no there isnt
Then why are animals mass farmed and murdered