• context [fae/faer, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    seems like legitimizing the outright theft of foreign assets is going to give billionaires around the world some second thoughts about the security of their dollars held in u.s. banks

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    10 months ago

    “Unlock” aka just steal like we did Afghanistan’s emergency fund. Well, if the US government wants to speedrun de-dollarization by demonstrating to the world why you shouldn’t bank with them, I’m not gonna interrupt them while they do it.

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          10 months ago

          ‘Civil Asset Forfeiture’ and it’s a good thing it’s finally being applied to some oligarchs.

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            The oligarchs that run my capitalist shithole have stolen money from the oligarchs that run another capitalist shithole, and the dumbest of the common people in my capitalist shithole, where the water is routinely toxic to drink, are celebrating as if it’s somehow a win for them too.

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              10 months ago

              That explains it. You don’t know what it’s like to live outside of a shithole. How could you? Every time an oligarch is taken down, it’s a win for society.

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                That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.

                A) There is no society. Margaret thatcher said as much when she started mass murdering poor people with a pen

                B) Actually no, its bad when an oligarch get eaten by another oligarch and not by the people, because then you have one oligarch with twice the power and no competition. You’re like a dirt-covered medieval peasant celebrating that your gout-ridden pedophile king has stolen the treasure hoard of another gout-ridden pedophile king.

                “My local oppressors are winning their game against their overseas rivals, this means I’m winning too!” Bro you’re not even on the team, you’re the ball.

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                  10 months ago

                  So you consider Margaret Thatcher to still be an authority. Since you argued that less Oligarchs is worse, then what is the adequate number of Mega-rich oligarchs you want to live with?

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        A day over a hundred years in the past that has no modern relevance. This is just the pigeonhole principle in action. If we avoided doing anything on a day where a villainous person did something vaguely of note, there would be no days left to do anything.

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            It’s just math. There are only 366 possible days in a year. You’re going to wind up with plenty of coincidences according to the pigeonhole principle. George Takei and Mike the headless chicken are both April 20 births. If they had passed this bill in a few days on the birth of Karl Marx (May 5), would that have been an endorsement of communism? No. The US Congress has business to do, and it isn’t going to halt everything because Hitler got born. Let the neo-Nazis care about Hitler’s birthday.

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      It will also destroy the last credibility US financial system have, piss off Russian capitalists and make them invest in the west even less. Win/win/win.

      Worse part is that will give maidan regime some more time to push even more Ukrainians into the grinder.

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        Russia’s GDP is dwarfed by the West. If Russian investors weren’t put off by having assets frozen when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, they’re unlikely to care about some more weapons. After all, the Russian people have seen many years of conflict. The rich are going to care about their hoards, not about the “special military operation.”

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            I don’t see where the question comes from. There are other driving forces in Russia behind the Ukraine War.

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          If Russian investors weren’t put off by having assets frozen when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022

          They already were, why they would even put more money there when they are getting frozen, but as long as their funds are only frozen, they could still have hope that the entire issue gonna get resolved one day and they will get it back. If the money get confiscated, that’s entire another situation.

          Russia’s GDP is dwarfed by the West

          Muh GDP!

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          The Russian capitalists did hate this. This war is incredibly unpopular among Russian capitalists.

          What PolandIsAStateOfMind is saying is that among those who were on the west’s side while still living within the Russian economic system, more than before will flip to embracing Russian finance, because their money will be irretrievable lost to western thievery. As long as the money hasn’t been spent, there’s a possibility that they’ll stick to liberal principles of private property. That means returning the money after the war. It’s naïve because the west already stole Afghanistan’s money as retaliation for Afghanistan winning the war against the USA.

          But some Russian capitalists might’ve been holding out upon the belief that the west’s racism was why they would steal Afghanistan’s money, but not do the same to white and west-worshipping capitalists oppressed by Russia’s state-oriented actions.

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      Two years, hundreds of thousands of casualties, tens of thousands of equipment losses and burning through Russia’s future generation and financial reserve

      ‘Winning’.

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    10 months ago

    Might as well have that over to some us ghouls in exchange for some old-new-stock weapons that will only prolong the suffering of ukrainians

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      Well EU is not far behind. But yes, if you damage country by attacking it and literally erasing towns in it, and capturing territory (the one you guaranteed to preserve and even defend by previous agreements), expect to pay.

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        It’s true, I still remember when the rest of the world put those heavy sanctions on us for our barbaric and genocidal invasion of Iraq. It was tough, but that was the day I learned that international law is definitely a real thing.

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    unlock billions in frozen Russian assets “Ah they’re finally returning what they’ve stole-” for Ukraine

    … [exasperated swearing in eldritch tongue]

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    “The Russians were surprised when, right after the war started, the Europeans took the exact same measures as the United States, freezing all of the reserves that were there, and the Japanese did the same, which is why most of Russia’s reserves today are frozen in Western banks”

    Russia on the worldstage, lol: https://youtu.be/FIc_eKkMJVo