Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

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    Makes sense, UN can only produce a finite amount of concern, not enough to express it on 2 major conflicts.

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        The UN’s role is to prevent conflict between major powers, not stop all war period. It has done an exemplary job at that, better than any organization in history. There have been no wars between major world powers in the past 75 years. Prior to that, all empires were constantly at each other’s throats.

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    And still getting his ass kicked by civilian volunteers with drones.

    Why don’t the Russian people get rid of this asshole?

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        Ye, me too brother. People think 🤔 Russia is like easily changeable or something… I think people forget just how many Russians and other people Russians have killed and imprisoned since Russia began so to say. I think people don’t understand that Russia never had a democracy… Ever. I don’t think people get that it’s not easy to live and survive in Russia no matter when and where…

        Also it’s as if people pretend not to know that if You protest 🪧 anything in Russia; you’re fucked.

        People also don’t know that the policemen rape people / men in prison. They torture You and rape you. At anytime You can be put in an MMA style fight against an opponent who will brutalize You before You die of the physical injuries.

        I don’t think people understand that if the world doesn’t help to establish a democracy in Russia that Russia will always ; always go back to its corrupt ways.

        I don’t think people understand that there are also Russians who’ve been totally brainwashed just the same way that people got / get brainwashed in states like China, north Korea and Nazi Germany ( in the passed ) , imperial Japan etc.

        I don’t think people get that its not easy to be the hero a martar or organize a rebellion when you’re under a violent regime and when all you have is your small family or none at all

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        Seems pretty simple, get tank, stand on tank with paper, scream loudly and voila we are done. Also, radiation salad works well.

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      In Mother Russia 🪆 Your idea kill You! ( another words; your idea 💡 would get you killed 😉 ).

      But You’re welcome to give it a try.

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      Gosh… Why didn’t the Germans kill Hitler? Why didn’t Japanese kill their “emperor” during world war 2? Why didn’t soviets kill Stalin or lenin ? What’s up with the dictators in China, why didn’t the Chinese kill them ? Why don’t the north Koreans kill their “leader”? Why didn’t Iraqi people kill Saddam Husain? Why didn’t Syria kill their Bashar al Assad? Why didn’t the Cubans kill Fidel Castro? Why didn’t the French kill Napoleon Bonaparte?

      Maybe 🤔😏 people just LOVE living under dictatorial regimes?

      Who knows?.. We’ll probably never know…

      /S

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      Why don’t the israelis get rid of Netanyahu?

      Why don’t the Americans get rid of Genocide Joe?

      Be the change you want to see in the world.

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          Genocide Joe? 🙄

          People are really working to rob that word of all meaning

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            “We are all domestic terrorists”

            That’s what they do.

            Edit: They even called the congressman who pulled the fire alarm to delay voting so people could read the bill, an insurrectionist.

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            Are they? Or do you just not consider Arab people humans? Maybe specifically Palestinians are the bad ones we can exterminate, in your mind?

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              Or do you just not consider Arab people humans?

              Its been standing US policy to dehumanize Arab people since at least 2001.

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              I see downvotes but I see no interaction with the two true assertions that make for this argument. Biden has the immediate power to stop this. And the this is a genocide of Palestinians.

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                And how exactly would he do that? I wasn’t aware he was The King of Israel. Should he thraten to nuke them?

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                  Maybe

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                  Stop sending billions in bombs to them knowing they’re gonna blow up Palestinian kids with them.

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                  https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/05/24/ronald-reagan-wasnt-afraid-to-use-leverage-to-hold-israel-to-task/

                  In addition to not vetoing UN resolutions, Reagan took several actions that many in Israel and the United States perceived as anti-Israel. For example, on June 7, 1981, less than six months after Reagan took office, Israel launched a surprise bombing raid on the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, and, in so doing, violated the airspace of Saudi Arabia and Jordan. Reagan not only supported UNSC Resolution 487, which condemned the attack, but he also criticized the raid publicly and suspended the delivery of advanced F-16 fighter jets to Israel. Moreover, over the strident objections of Israel and the pro-Israel U.S. lobby groups, Reagan approved the sale of advanced reconnaissance aircraft (AWACS ) to Saudi Arabia, which Israel then viewed as a hostile state.

                  A year later, in August 1982, when Israeli forces advanced beyond southern Lebanon and began shelling the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) in Beirut, Reagan responded with an angry call to Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, demanding a halt to the operation.

                  In addition, during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Reagan intervened directly when Israel threatened to blow up the Commodore Hotel in downtown Beirut, which housed more than 100 western reporters. As David Ottaway, who was then the Washington Post Middle East correspondent and was in the building, pointed out, the Israeli defense minister did not like the media coverage the invasion was getting and wanted to close down the media center.

                  Biden, on the other hand, even though he had an hour’s notice, failed to intervene to stop Netanyahu from bombing and collapsing the 12-story building that housed the offices of Al Jazeera and the Associated Press in Gaza during the recent bombing campaign. He also failed to publicly condemn the attack, let alone challenge Israel’s contention that the building sheltered Hamas military intelligence assets, despite AP’s insistence that its staff had no evidence that such assets were or ever had been present.

                  In addition to allowing the UN resolutions to pass and suspending the F-16 delivery, Reagan also restricted aid and military assistance to Israel to help force its withdrawal of troops from Beirut and central Lebanon.

                  Therefore, if in the future some members of the Biden administration or Congress want to join the international community in condemning Israel’s behavior, or in conditioning U.S. assistance or arms transfers and face resistance from Republicans, they need only point to the precedents established by President Reagan in the first instance.

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                  Israel is a client state of the US. Biden could simply threaten to revoke aid and they would immediately stop the bombing. Their defense minister said so outright not long ago.

                  Liberals tell you they’re powerless so they can pretend to be good people who simply have no means to stop the status quo. Don’t believe them on either part.

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            Top UN officials have called this a a textbook case of genocide in all aspects. Even BEFORE Oct 7.

            You are a modern holocaust denier. A special thing to observe.

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          If you have to choose between Hitler and Stalin consider voting for a third party or not voting.

          Voting for any person means you approve of their actions and you are complicit and responsible for them.

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            Voting for any person means you approve of their actions and you are complicit and responsible for them.

            I don’t think it means that necessarily. It’s just as valid to vote strategically against an even worse party if they have a chance of winning. It’s not morally contentious to vote for the lesser of two evils.

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              If you keep voting for the lesser of two evils there will never an incentive for a good one to show up because you won’t vote for them anyways.

              You’re too busy voting for Genocide Joe.

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                Well I Iive in Canada but point taken. I’m still not sure I agree that it’s on the voter to let the worse party win just to support a burgeoning better one. I’d say the responsibility is on that better party to secure their base and show a reasonable chance to win before asking voters to risk the worse party winning.

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        Israel managed to get rid of Netenyahu for a year or two but then he regained power.

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        Its different because America and Israel are democracies. Therefore, they can kill as many people as they want and its okay actually.

        Putin is an evil dictator leading a rogue state (That’s on the verge of collapse! Any day now!) And suggesting he is in any way like an Israeli or an American flags you as a Chinese Robot Antifa Fifth Columnist Hamas Affiliated Trump Supporter.

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          That’s a false dichotomy… Joe Biden is a genocidal Zionist and Putin is an ethno-national imperialist, there is no inherent conflict with those statements.

          They are both the heads of militaristic, expansionist, capitalist governments. I never saw why people on the left are cheering for Putin. Is he in opposition to the western hegemony? Yes, but only because it stands in competition to his own western hegemony.

          It’s like you guys are embodying the Godzilla “let them fight meme”, but forgetting that they are murdering thousands of people in the process.

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            It’s like you guys are embodying the Godzilla “let them fight meme”, but forgetting that they are murdering thousands of people in the process.

            The meme was something of a joke in the movie, in large part because all anyone could do was kick back and let them go at one another. At best, a distraction would involve one or the other flattening you and getting back to the business at hand.

            The Ukraine War is very much a Clash of the Titans, in so far as there’s nothing a domestic Russian or American do to oppose these colossal military forces. To actively oppose the old Cold War powers is an exercise in futility. All you can really hope for is that they exhaust themselves - possibly even kill each other off - and leave you alone.

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    Looks like it’s all going according to Putin’s plan.

    I’m the last guy to put on a tinfoil hat, but the whole situation seems like it was engineered by Russia to take pressure off their war with the Ukraine.

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      I’d say it’s simpler than that. Russia keeps funding regions it wants destabilized so something bad is always happening at a time good for Russia.

      No tinfoil hat, but total Scumbag Putin.

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          Literally no idea what your trying to argue for here. I told the person above me that it doesn’t have to be some crazy conspiracy.

          Were you trying to respond to him? Or are you one of those people who thinks Putin is a saint? In both cases, I’m the wrong person to reply that way to. I’m the voice of reason here.

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      They said that the Hamas attack took at least one year to plan, maybe 18 months. Putin thought he would win the war on Ukraine quickly.

      So I have my doubts that this was perfectly orchestrated to take attention away at the right time.

      Russia and Iran’s strategy is more likely loosely aligned.

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        Putin would have steamrolled Ukraine quickly if Trump had been reelected. There’s a reason Russian troops massed on the Ukraine border right at the election. Putin couldn’t back down when Trump lost, and lose face.

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        Presumably he knew there was more than an outside chance the war took over a year. And it could easily have been assisted by Russia while already in the works.

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      There was no real indication for the scope and intensity of the hamas attacks. Based on US and Israeli Intel. There were some kind of warning signs, but nothing pointing to this ferocity. I think fighters got far further than they could dream of, and the severity of the response is a direct reaction to the failure of the isreali army to see and stop the attack. It’s difficult to believe that the kremlin had more and better information to know that an attack would lead to war on the scale we see today. And I’m willing to believe that Russia sees benefits in arming hamas through the lens of geopolitics, they aren’t controlling the actions of hamas in any meaningful way, I certainly don’t believe that.

      Putin is just taking advantage and is absolutely never harmed by being seen as some kind of geopolitical mastermind. He isn’t.

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      More likely an opportune moment for Putin. The Gaza conflict seems to have been primarily stoked by Iran over concerns of growing positive Israel and Saudi Arabia relations

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        And Russia has been purchasing large amounts of Iranian munitions. It’s not that far fetched for Russia to simply throw some money at Iran to throw a bit less money at Hamas to start some shit

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          Iran does not now and never has needed Russian money to finance Hamas. This is a much older pre-existing relationship that its had with Hamas for decades. Furthermore, Iran and Hamas, as well as the other Iranian proxies, have a much greater interest than Russia in ensuring that Israel doesn’t normalize relations with the KSA and other Arab nations. Accordingly, while Russia is happy to see this all go down, there’s very little chance that they played any active role in it at all.

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      Looks like it’s all going according to Putin’s plan.

      Which plan? Almost certainly not his first plan. I think plan B and C have been tried also.

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      It was a great plan, if so. Russia obviously knew Israel wanted to start completing the genocide, and it wouldnt be beyond belief that Russia got extra rocket supplies into Gaza. It’s not even, like, deceitful, it’s just good planning. The best way to get away with something is to get someone else to do something way worse. And genocide is clearly way worse than Russia reclaiming a historically Russian area.

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    Buy 2 TVs, so you can watch both human miseries unfold at the same time! Better than anything Hollywood or Bollywood or Nollywood could ever produce! And when you get bored, just vote in another war fueling and genocide financing psychopathic “lesser evil” moron into the office, so you never get bored of human despair and pain.

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      honestly? America only had as much to do with the Ukraine war as it was giving them the ability to defend themselves.

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    It is amazing how the news cycle dropped Ukraine so fast. Not good for getting US support, but I think Ukraine can still get support from Europe.

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      dropped?

      we never drop our money makers just because you don’t hear about it. Double the wars, double the profits. what are you even talking about? All I see is money money money. now we get to ask for even more money as there is more demand and limited supply.

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    Can we please give the armed forces of Ukraine finally airplanes? The offensive is going nowhere if they are not supplied with an edge in combat gear.

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      Unfortunately it’s not that easy.

      They have already got a large sum of F16’s, but it takes training of Ukrainian pilots before they can be used in combat.

      From what I understand they should be ready to fly in early 2024. That still a long time to go - but you don’t want to lose pilots or planes because of inexperience with that type of airplane.

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      Haven’t you seen the pattern:

      • Ukraine: Give us [some weapon].
      • US/NATO: No, it would mean WW3.

      Let some time pass.

      • US/NATO: Well, we could send you some [some weapon].

      Rinse and repeat.

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    Russia ----> Iran -----> Hamas

    Israel, the USA, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia were in the midst of high level talks for KSA to recognize Israel with the United States providing a weapons package to KSA, and then 4000 “Palestinians” stormed the Israeli border on October 7th, raped, burnt, beheaded and slaughtered close to 2000 Israeli citizens, causing the largest loss of Jewish life, in any single day, anywhere, since the end of the Holocaust

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    Ukraine needs all the air defense they can get. Russia has been signaling they will try again to freeze the civilian population this winter.

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      If we’d shift funds from Israel (who are committing genocide) to Ukraine (who are defending themselves) it helps Palestine and hurts Russia too.

      Is a win/win.

      Imagine if Ukraine had the iron dome America bought Israel.

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        So you want Israel to be bombed even more and everyone there killed? Because that’s the plan of Palestine and Lebanon (which is genocide btw). And would happen if they didn’t have the iron dome.

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          Israel, just like Russia, can simply stop occupying territories which don’t belong to them and stop a genocide. And no one will be killed. Stop apologizing the genocide, ok?

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            Hamas attacked an area that did not belong to Palestine. And the areas they are constantly shooting rockets at are also not the areas that Israel took unrightfully. The idea that Palestine is only defending and not attacking doesn’t fit their agenda or their behaviour in the past and now.

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    Putin sees there’s no consequences for butchering thousands of civilians. Proceeds to do the same.

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      What makes you think this is his first time? Have you been paying attention at all? Are you somehow oblivious to the thousands of Ukrainian civilians who’ve already been killed by Putin? This selective outrage blows me away. Have you been asleep for the last year and a half? This is the madness of crowds.

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        Putin has killed fewer civilians in Ukraine in 2.5 years than Netanyahu has in Gaza in 30 days. Israel has shown that there are no costs for him to escalate dramatically as it’s clear the world won’t do anything.

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    What else should Putin have done that servers the interests of Russia and russians the best?

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        Yeah but you see, he can’t, because NATO made him do it. NATO is weak and decadent by the way, but simultaneously strong enough to force Nice Guy Putin into doing things he wouldn’t have done otherwise.

        What I really mean to say is, the West is responsible for these bombings (I am very intelligent).

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        But why have the US and West not been able to kick him out? Isn’t Russia a gas-station? Isn’t Putin weak? Isn’t the Russian army weak? Isn’t “the whole world” agaist Putin? Isn’t UA winning all the time, at any given time?

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    • Russian: fighting an armed country and fueled by NATO members
    • Israel: fighting. I mean BOMBING from their heated offices, civil without shoes and haven’t sleep for 2weeks

    Oh and between, Russia has been cut off from SWIFT, assets frozen if not stolen, etc etc… Israel? freepass

    You can’t make more cynical, and binary treatment, you can’t

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      I don’t support Israel, but the Russians attacked unprovoked. They’re not 1:1.

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    One day US and EU propaganda claim that Putin and Russia are on a brick of collapse, that the russian army is unable of anything and UA is winning. The next day they’ll cry that the same russian army is 1st or 2nd strongest in the world, that it overpowers UA in all ways possible despite that US and EU help the latter.

    And so on back and forth. Yet they claim that they don’t engage in propaganda and misinformation.

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      russian army is way more professional than th UA one

      Never seen a single western article claiming that.