• Guildo
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    88 months ago

    both author’s books need to be in the trashcan

      • Guildo
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        228 months ago

        Max Stirner. Some kind of weird egoistic anarchist. Friedrich Engels liked him a lot in his early years. If I am right Karl Marx wrote a lot about him, but mostly how stupid his ideas were.

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          8 months ago

          Just finished Stirner’s book, it’s interesting. (although I do not agree with even half of the things he says)

          Marx and Engels wrote about him in “The German Ideology”, criticizing him harshly, but the book was only published after their death.

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            58 months ago

            Yeah, I looked it up and gave a link to wikipedia here, already. I was not sure, cause the last time I read something about him was like 10 years, ago. You have to read the exchange between Marx and Engels, you’ll find more there. It’s obvious that nobody would remember Stirner, if Marx & Engels hadn’t critized his ideas.

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              28 months ago

              The edition I read has a commentary at the end that talks about various people’s opinions of the book in the years following its publication, and quotes some passages from Marx and Engels’ letters.

              It’s amazing how few people have maintained a positive opinion about him/his work for more than a few years

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        78 months ago

        LOL! Hell no, he wasn’t. His ideas were simple, stupid and had not really a connection to the reality. It works maybe on a personal level, but mostly in your mind. If you have a connection with economics and the materialistic world, nah - it doesn’t. I think the funniest part is that nobody would remember him, if Engels didn’t make a lot of jokes about him. Even the only existing portrait of him is from Engels making fun of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_German_Ideology

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            In what world? Outside of the shitposting of some political internet bubbles Stirner is practically unheard of, while Engels is a cornerstone of scientific socialism and materialist philosophy in general

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              18 months ago

              a cornerstone of scientific socialism and materialist philosophy in general

              Reads like the rusty letters of a long transformed institution of ‘state socialism’. Egoism doesn’t give a shit about Stirner.