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    MS screwing us with software. Apple screwing us with hardware upgrades. Linux out there taking all survivors

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      Linux suffers from being a patchwork of hobbyists updates, corporate additions, and patchy distro support. When it comes down to it, if you have an issue, you either have to solve it on your own or hope and pray the elitists on StackOverflow are in a good mood.

      Honestly, every OS kinda sucks.

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        “Patchwork” sounds like a good way to describe Windows as well. Or at least it was when I was a Windows 10 sysadmin and there were two different settings menus to do everything.

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          My first one was a random floppy distribution off an ftp server. I then tried SuSE off a CD-ROM and then went with Red Hat for a while. Then Debian, now Ubuntu. Tried FreeBSD but didn’t stick. Probably Debian again next. I always prefer Debian on the server though.

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    i’m sure the free market will solve this. we just need to wait for a new company to pop up, make a new operating system, ensure windows programs are properly emulated, convince the majority of people and businesses to use it, and then use its new monopoly for good.

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      Free market ideas always sounded like cartoon level intelligence to me. Some kind of a perfect world where everyone acts morally and people are well informed and chooses the right companies etc.

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        its really absurd. it becomes even stupider when considering that many of these assumptions allow mathematical models to be built on top of them, and then those models are treated with such importance and authority. but then they sometimes also get the math wrong. i remember learning a while back that part of the 2009 housing crash was caused by faulty mathematics laid ontop of these weird economic assumptions. the part im talking about is:

        The paper, generally referred to as the Dahlem report, condemns a growing reliance over the past three decades on mathematical models that improperly assume markets and economies are inherently stable, and which disregard influences like differences in the way various economic players make decisions, revise their forecasting methods and are influenced by social factors.

        the first part refers to a kind of “smoothness assumption”, where they approximate the bumpy, jagged graph with a “smooth” curve that is easier to analyze. but it turned out the bumps were there for a reason. oops! the second part of the quote then says that in addition to the faulty smoothness assumption, there were quite a few important things the model flat out ignored

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        It doesn’t require people to act morally, it requires them to act according to their long term self interest, assuming they are… immortal. And we all know human beings are omniscient and immortal. So no problem. /s

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        But that’s not how it works. Free market ideas don’t expect a perfect world, they instead expect an imperfect one. You don’t need everyone to make food decisions, you just need enough people to make good decisions so the market caters to them.

        It’s the same idea as democracy, you don’t need every voter to make a good choice, you just need a plurality. As long as enough people make decent choices enough of the time, democracy works. The free market is just democracy, but with money instead of votes.

        In both cases government has a role. I think governments should add in longer term costs to the market, but in a way that preserves choice as much as possible (i.e. carbon taxes instead of carbon limits). I think governments should educate the population to increase the chances that they’ll make good decisions at the polls.

        In the specific case of Microsoft, things were competitive until the government looked the other way WRT antitrust law. There’s a lot of shady stuff that happened in the first couple decades that Microsoft existed, yet they largely got a free pass.

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          All the big corps get a free pass because of money and power, and this is why free market doesn’t work.

          Democracy doesn’t work either since media is owned by big corps as well. People can only know what they are allowed to know. If you are rich and powerful, you manipulate the media and you manipulate entire elections and decisions.

          After a while, you actually see how all these systems are manipulated dally.

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      That’s the problem

      • they are making harder to change the default browser on windows, and broke workaround by chrome and firefox too.
      • they don’t let you uninstall edge in easy way or without a third party software.
      • if you download another browser from edge they try to persuade you in to giving edge a try.
      • they are planning to set edge as the default browser on teams.
      • they don’t give you an easy way to open with another browser the internet result from the windows search bar, they broke EdgeDeflector many times indeed.

      And nobody is doing something about it!

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          You know that’s a fuck up situation when you need to hope that a government union will give a fuck about a tech giant throwing shit at their paying customers

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            Well, there’s at least some hope, looking at the whole USB-C situation, the DSA and the DMA.

            So much happens everyday that is more than just technically illegal, law enforcement doesn’t even know where to start.

            One big thing for the GDPR right now is how many EU-US data transfers are violating the law, because they happen without user consent. If we’re being as strict as we should be, EU websites aren’t allowed to use Google Analytics, for example

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        It’s sad, because Edge is actually a pretty good browser, but all this shit just makes everyone hate it.

        Also, every Google page I visit gives me an annoying “Download Chrome now!” popup, so MS i guess is just using the same strategy Google used.

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        Haven’t installed fresh windows in a few years but I distinctly remember the past few times I installed Windows 10 I had the weirdest issues trying to download Firefox or chrome, like the webpage or download button was broke. I had to get my browser through ninite

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    That’s because they’re a malware company:

    this has been going on in several different forms for years now so I’m just counting the days until the next annoying pop-up appears.

    The solution is to not use their products. Use Linux.

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      I would use Linux if my primary reasons for using a computer worked properly. Games are a lot better these days than it was and always improving so there is light at the end of the tunnel in that respect but Traktor DJ software not so much.

      As far as I know the only alternative on Linux is mixxx and that was just no where near as good the last time I used it. Maybe it is time to try it again…

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        If you’re hanging onto Windows for just one app, you could try running it in a virtual machine. I do that for a few work-related apps that have no Linux/web versions and it works great.

        You could also dual boot, if VM performance doesn’t quite cut it.

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          I have tried dual booting in the past but it becomes a pita for me as usually the majority of my time spent on a computer is using those things that only worked within windows so why change back just to say browse the web for example.

          In the past it was games that were a pain to run but I haven’t tried it in the last 3 years or so and know that it has gotten a lot better with the advent of steam giving a shit about Linux more so due in no small part I’m sure of the steam deck.

          The problem with virtual machines or WINE or whatever is the current standard for emulating a windows environment is that one application depends heavily on audio latency. It needs to run well and provide as close to zero latency as possible. Like I’ve said in a few other replies, maybe it is time I tried it out again as it has been a few years since I gave switching over a go, I need to have the time to put into getting it up and running and fixing any problems that arise however :D

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            Gaming these days is generally excellent thanks to Proton. Certain titles do still have issues, but it’s on a case by case basis.

            Audio latency is a good point - I don’t know how that fares under a VM these days. Pipewire has brought many improvements over Pulse, so it’s possible that the situation has also gotten better.

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            I used WineASIO with Guitar Rig for a long time and it worked well and with acceptably low latency. It can be a hassle to set up though and I don’t know how it plays along with pipewire these days.

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          When I tried it last I had problems fully mapping my controller in a way that it worked as expected as well as effects not being as good and overall functionality and work flow not being as smooth as polished as I’ve been used to using serato and then traktor.

          It has been a while since I tried it though so maybe I should give it another bash and see how it has improved over the years.

          How is the library management? That is one thing traitor fucking sucks at!

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            There’s a long list of supported controllers. The process for making your own mappings can indeed be a bit cumbersome, but it also seems to be quite powerful in the kind of features it can support, thanks to javascript integration.

            Not sure about the library management, seems to work well enough for me.

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      But at least you don’t pay chrome, with windows instead you need to pay a license to use it.

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          Using windows without a license is illegal.

          This is like saying you don’t need to have a driving license to drive a car because the car doesn’t complain about it.

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            Windows licensing doesn’t have enforcement. If there weren’t police plenty of people would drive without a license.

            Edit:

            Checks comments

            User posted in Piracy 30 minutes ago

            😐

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      Guys, I keep reading this, but it’s not the same thing. At all. You don’t want to get Google’s crap? You don’t visit their crap websites. There are so many websites in this world to visit to avoid Google’s crap. You just don’t type anything with google on it in your address bar. The only way to avoid Microsoft’s crap is to install another operating system in your desktop or laptop. It’s just not the same thing. At all.
      Microsoft should be forced to do what they have forced Google to do in Android. At least where I live, in EU. Ballon tips to have the option to use another browser and an option to disable Edge and all the crap asking all the time to use Edge. Like the android ballon tip and the option we have to at least disable Android Chrome.

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    The fact that Microsoft’s constantly more aggressive use of their OS platform to artificially push their search and cloud platforms hasn’t triggered multiple huge antitrust cases is a pretty dire indicator of how little regulators are willing or able to safeguard the public from monopolistic behavior by large tech companies.

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      If you’re thinking of the EU, it’s probably just the vogonlike bureaucracy, so in about the time that Windows 12 comes out, they’ll be ready. Can’t say it bothers me, if Microsoft is attempting to take marketshare from Google, though.

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    It’s Internet Explorer time all over again.

    Isn’t modern Edge chromium based? I’d understand using Edge back when it was using it’s own technology, as much as I hate Microsoft internet browsers, it allowed for optimisations such as better battery life on laptops. But using chromium based Edge, I don’t understand it at all. Who wants to use Microsoft flavoured chrome? Yuck.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “We are aware of these reports and have paused this notification while we investigate and take appropriate action to address this unintended behavior,” says Caitlin Roulston, director of communications, in a statement to The Verge.

    I wasn’t alone in thinking it was malware, with posts dating back three months showing Reddit users trying to figure out why they were seeing the pop-up.

    Microsoft even had to backtrack on plans to force the Chrome default search to Bing for businesses installing its Office apps.

    After all, Google runs similar notifications on its webpages to get people to use Chrome or it’s annoying YouTube premium spam.

    That could be in the form of the price of a laptop that has a Windows OEM license baked in, or a product key if you built your own PC.

    Windows is an important productivity tool for many people, and shouldn’t be treated like a cheap streaming box loaded with ads.


    The original article contains 654 words, the summary contains 155 words. Saved 76%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      My work computer is macOS and I’ve never seen a recommendation to use Bing despite using a ton of Microsoft products for work.

      My personal computers run Linux, and again, no MS spam.

      So yeah, don’t use Windows and you won’t get MS spam. You should probably also use DuckDuckGo or another privacy-centric search engine.

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    “We are aware of these reports and have paused this notification while we investigate and take appropriate action to address this unintended behavior,” says Caitlin Roulston, director of communications

    “”“unintended”“”?

    How do you implement shit like this by mistake and push it out to be executed on people’s computers by mistake?

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    I need to move my system to linux , however there is data on my system i need to backup, any way I can do that ?.