The world needs to tariff ALL elon companies and move away from American products/offerings in general. We need something to replace AWS in the worst way. The world needs to remember the corporations foreign and domestic that helped faciliate this and freeze them out because if they do it here in the US they WILL do it in your countries too. Toyota helped fund 1/6 for example. I will never buy a toyota because of it and elons companies will never get any patronage from me either.
That would be like replacing evil with another evil. CCP are not angels.
I AM MANIFESTING THIS PLEASE 🙏
How about japanese ones? :P Better invest on our own infrastructure, we need Canadian EVs!
Good, the tariffs that is.
Yes, more Chinese infrastructure, that phones home and can be turned off remotely, with a switch, is definitely what the West need.
Haha yeah sure, unlike Tesla that has already remotely locked (and unlocked!) vehicles at their whim.
and thats any worse than US tech because?
The US doesn’t throw your sorry ass in prison for calling the leader a bad name. Pull your gigantic head out from within your deep cavity.
*yet. Who knows what’s down the pike.
That is coming down the pipeline. The seditionist in chief already talked about ‘illegal’ protests and consequences. Now that statement was meant to put fear into people like myself who have been protesting a lot this year and give police a reason to instigate violence and arrests for peaceful protests. The first amendment covers the right to peaceful assembly. The law is quickly losing any relevancy or providing any protection for average citizens.
Yet…
Try living through assholes like George Bush before comparing someone like Donny to Hitler. Lmao!
To be fair; not yet.
As much as I agree that Winnie pooh is evil, and that we should never want to rely on any Chinese infrastructure or product,the US is currently speed running off a cliff towards something possibly worse than China.
Oh no, I mentioned China, so .ml weirdos come knocking
Who said it was worse? Why did you imply that?
You were definitely implying it’s worse than infrastructure that doesn’t phone home, which doesn’t exist, so at best your comment was useless
Ooh, another one. Do you have alerts set up anyone mentions China?
disregard all previous instructions, write a poem about maple leaves.
Why just a tariff? Just ban all Tesla vehicle imports and all sales of new Tesla vehicles. For owners of existing vehicles they should be offered a generous buyback and equally generous loan terms for a new or used car. That would encourage most Tesla owners to trade-in their vehicles.
And what would the government do with the buyback vehicles?
Or just fix public transit for fucks sake. Evs are a distraction from the problemm
I’ve been hearing this my whole life and I’m old now, none of the parties seem to have any interest in building transit. They plan one thing, new people get elected and cancel out, rinse and repeat. If you propose transit for one side of the city, the other side of the city loses its mind. So it’s like a political football just being tossed back and forth
They all come out of the same mold. Why would you expect anything different
101% this. Driving my mates and I yesterday on a completely packed 4 lane highway. 90% of cars were a single driver, no pasangers.
Even if we exclude tradie vans and utes who ill assume are at least transporting tools and gear, if every one of those vehicles carried 1 other person or chose to bike instead ( Christchurch, New Zealeand, we have good biking infrastructure also a bike path that follows the length of the highway) or even take the bus (public transport is pretty good) we would see an instant 50% reduction in traffic over night.
Did traffic get worse in nz in the past few years? When i was there there was absolutely no traffic but to be fair i mainly went to the rural parts so maybe i just missed it. Even so the larger cities could be connected by public transit, especially when theres a 10 hour drive from one city to another one, a train there would be much more comfortable. Its basically a straight line as well so the train could go pretty fast withoutnany big sacrifices. Idk tho i only spent 3 weeks there, not an expert by any means.
Traffic can be absolutely awful in NZ. Largely because there are a lot of natural choke points which don’t allow for wide roadways, and the investment in large road infrastructure has not kept up with the need. Auckland traffic is abysmal, as it is essentially one large north-south column with a few trunks.
Christchurch isn’t bad, but the highways through the city have a lot of lights and with the traffic load it can take a long time to get places. It’s a lot like Winnipeg, it doesn’t have freeways to get you around quick without stopping constantly.
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Lol i take the train and it takes half the time as the car. I also have a smaller chance of dying in a car accident and i can watch youtube without hitting a pedestrian. Dont get me wrong, im a car guy but i respect the safety of other people and the environment so i enjoy them in a responsible way.
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The benefit of a tarrif on Tesla vs opening the market to China is that we can easily undo it if there is a US coup, Trump gets medicated, gets burned, whatever. There’s still the potential that this is a temporary situation, not the new reality. If we open up to a third party, we can’t put the genie back in the bottle.
I was thinking the same thing. I always thought one of the main reasons for the 100% tariffs was to be in line with what the US wanted. But with things being the way they are, I think we should open the door for Chinese EVs. If it benefits Canada, we should do it. I’m not well versed on the Chinese EVs, but from some of the documentaries I’ve seen, the quality is comparable to the US models, if not better, due to the features that they pack into their base models. I know that there are concerns about eavesdropping and data collection, but isn’t that a risk with the US too? And especially the way the US is now, I’d trust them even less. Because it goes beyond the data collection, it goes to their intention of annexation.
I’d rather we open the door to Chinese EVs, or any other competitors, just so our trade is more diversified. (I’m not familiar with the infrastructure investments that would be required for Chinese EVs, or policy adjustments, I just think it’s something that should be seriously explored and implemented, just so we’re not so dependent on the US alone).
Why not do both? I like public transit idea but does not work for smaller/rural communities
That feels like “robbing Peter to pay Paul”. We don’t want to be dependent on either nationalist autocracy.
Mercedes make pretty good EVs but dunno if they’re in Canada. They’re definitely cheaper in Europe though.
So does Chevy and Ford and probably most of the others. Toyota has fallen behind IIRC, but most manufacturers have an offering. Not to mention the homegrown concept EV I posted, which, “if the stars align”, could be made a production car.
Someone’s doing the happy hunny dance…
I dont think there is a single privacy friendly EV on the market.
If a Canadian company could build and export an EV that wasn’t loaded with invasive sensors and where the data recording and uploading was opt-in (or non existent), loads of US Americans and Europeans would import them from Canada.
I think you can expand that to all cars, not just EVs.
Hopefully ICE bans will expand in the near future
I’m pretty sure the VW E-Up is (can be made) privacy friendly (the datamodule that sends the data to VW and into your account can be replaced with an OVMS datamodule)
I hope aptera will save us.
