• Ragdoll X@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Sometimes you have to use complicated terms because you’re dealing with complicated ideas…

    Other times it’s clear that the authors are just trying to pad the length of a paper and sound more pompous.

    In Brazil we call this “enchendo linguiça”, which literally translates to “filling sausage”.

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      Yeah, I get shit occasionally in random places for using bigger words when they actually would take multiple sentences to replace.

      But there are a fucking lot of people who use big (or obscure) words purely as a kind of signaling that they’re smart, rather than for communication. And it’s usually really obvious to people who have better vocabularies (or better understanding of the jargon in a specific field) that they don’t know what they’re doing.

      If after looking up a word, the rationale for the word choice doesn’t become understandable on at least some level, it’s probably nonsense. (There are some super smart people who just don’t know how to communicate though and think the word’s as simple to everyone else as to them.)

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        7 months ago

        “Don’t use a five-dollar word when a fifty-cent word will do.” - Mark Twain (attributed?)

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          I was absolutely terrible at that. I had really bad homework grades and completion rates exactly because of shit like that.

          “You gave me a 500 word question. I can’t make 1500 words out of it. If I’m going to fail anyways fuck turning it in.” (No, no part of that approach was intelligent, but I just couldn’t fill space with obvious trash. My brain would shut down.)

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        On the flip side of this, it makes me sad that using fancy words usually just makes you seem pretentious in normal conversations, which has made a lot of cool/interesting words unusable for me. Even words that used to be pretty common, like insipid, will have most people look at you like 🤨

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          7 months ago

          I’ve seen a cool chart somewhere that pointed at specific words for varying intensities of specific adjectives. The objectif was to avoid writing very+adjective, which sounds boring, and use the proper word instead.

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      7 months ago

      you’re dealing with complicated ideas

      With many specific components or processes that must be differentiated between each other, and often the difference is negligible, abstract or hazy to the untrained eye.

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    A major turning point in one’s academic journey is when you go from struggling to compose a lengthy and impressive essay to struggling to compose a concise and accessible essay (otherwise known as the “too-short-and-basic to too-long-and-pompous shift”). Sometimes this takes leaving academia and realizing that your masterpiece work doesn’t mean shit if no one bothered to read it.

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      I was an engineer is school. I’ve always been good at fluffing up my writing, but it always annoyed me that I had to make things longer when I felt like I was already done.

      When one of my first engineering reports said “this has to be no more than 2 pages long” as opposed to “at least” I knew I had chosen the right school. Lol

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      Well, sort of

      It does generate nonsense, but unlike Calvin the ChatGPT is generating nonsense based on nonsense sample data, so Calvin’s is still better.

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      7 months ago

      Unfortunately the average person prefers flowery language for some reason. So that’s what OpenAI optimized for.

      If you tell it to be precise and short it usually works fine.

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    The more I see the nakedness of the emperor, the more impressed I am with the skill of the wizards who crafted his invisible clothes.

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    Love that In work we try to minimize the words as much as possible.

    Key reasons come to mind:

    1. global audience and people need to put it into translator.
    2. some people we work with are dumb as doornails and ideas need to be simplified.
    3. no one wants to read 5 paragraph for a simple we don’t know what color you wanted.
    4. ain’t nobody got time for that.

    Those extend the paper as long as possible skills are useless in the real-world.