Mozilla’s position on WEI is pretty solid.
It’s funny, I always kept Firefox and Brave (yes I’m aware its chromium and full of fuckery) installed. But as soon as this news broke, before it was even confirmed, I swapped back from Brave to Firefox as my primary. Fuck Google for this. They’re just truly not the company they once were.
They never really were the company they claimed to be.
Oh god no, never said otherwise. But for years they struck this equilibrium between evil and quality of services offered in exchange. That value had been rapidly deteriorating for the last 5 years or so. It’s just sad to see is all.
Will keep supporting Firefox 👍👍👍
Why do I feel like it isn’t the death of the internet as we know of, but rather the sharding of the internet. The corpo plaza internet is clearly emerging, we have to make sure we support and hold up the everyone else internet
With banking, streaming, there isn’t really an easy alternative. This could be a locking out that could be quite disruptive.
I’m outta the loop on this whole situation, what’s going on?
Web dev here. It enforces the original markup and code from a server to be the markup and code that the browser interprets and executes, preventing any post-loading modifications.
That sounds a bit dry, but the implications are huge. It means:
- ad blockers won’t work (the main reason for Google’s ploy)
- many, if not most, other browser extensions won’t work (eg.: accessibility, theming, anti-malware)
- people are going to start running into a lot of scam ads that ad blockers would otherwise prevent
- malicious websites will be able to operate with impunity since you cannot run security extensions to prevent them
- web developers are going to be crippled for lack of debugging ability
These are just a few things off the top of my head. There are endless and very dangerous implications to WEI. This is very, very bad for the web and antithesis of how it’s supposed to be.
TBL is probably experiencing a sudden disturbance in the force.
I think you’re missing the fact that if google doesn’t attest for your software choice, the website could prevent access. It is google trying to take ownership of what is and isn’t supported software when accessing the internet. This is far more serious that a few adverts, this could be the removal of liberty on the open web.
I’m not saying you’re wrong or that Web Environment Integrity is a good thing, but a primary source and citation is needed for this statement:
It enforces the original markup and code from a server to be the markup and code that the browser interprets and executes, preventing any post-loading modifications.
Read between the lines, dude. Ad blockers work by observing and analyzing the DOM for elements presenting or containing ads and subsequently removing or obscuring those elements by manipulating the DOM. There’s no way for WEI to carry out its purported goals without forcibly preventing DOM manipulation.
There are absolutely no conceivable benefits for users. None.
