in nyc that’d cost 7500 a month
“OK, there’s no way they can tell us about their extended warranties up HERE, right?”
“$75 Airbnb cleaning fee”
Love how rock climbing has some of the safest, most thoroughly tested gear in sports, but it always looks dangerous and that attacts all the “these guys are all idiots”, “darwin award” and “i would probably die” people.
There’s no good reason to do what these guys are doing, it’s thrill seeking pursued by the kind of people that associate risky behavior with meaningful life experiences.
I feel like that logic could be applied to a lot of the things we do for fun.
Sure, but a lot of the things we do for fun do not involve the kind of risks that require a search and rescue team to pull you out of when you fuck up (or the wind just happens to blow a little harder than you expected that night).
The risk/reward calculation for this scenario is way off.
You keep pretending to be great at assessing risks from your armchair but forget that these two guys are professionals, and you know nothing about rock climbing or this particular situation, you haven’t provided a singke reason why what they are doing is risky, or stupid. Anchors not bomber proof enough? Not enough redundancy? Too much slack? What is the problem exactly?
Yet you feel entitled to judge them. These are probably the guys that come and rescue you, when you do something stupid in the outdoors, not the other way around.
There’s a good reason to find out what you are capable of.
I am capable of… risk assessment.
Being an adrenaline junkie won’t teach you anything about yourself that you couldn’t learn otherwise. It can be a great distraction from actual self-discovery.
You can learn that without endangering your own life.
Nobodies life is in any real danger here. They and all their equipment are roped in on at least 3 redundant anchors (probably a number more). Rock climbing looks scary but with proper precautions and training it is not significantly riskier than other outdoor sports.
The level of ignorance from these commenters who know nothing of the sport but speak with such authority on it really reminds me of the worst of reddit.
This is exactly what I was trying to say with my original comment.
they needed a nap
They’re just having fun
https://www.tetongravity.com/story/news/your-chances-of-dying-ranked-by-sport-and-activity
Gear isn’t the whole story. My running shoes are safe but a slip or getting hit by a car are always a risk. In the photo, the risk isn’t necessarily the equipment: it’s human error or the unpredictability of nature.
“OMG you’re gonna get killed!”
I mean, a Magna CAN be temperamental.
This is a Suzuki GZ250, not a Magna.
OOps, I stand corrected, thanks!
Yeah, I think I’ll just . . . not do that.
I mean I could, definitely, but I just don’t really feel like doing it.
just gandering at the pic it looks like a crack route and you would most definitely not be doing that. a lot of strength, endurance, and technique for that.
Don’t freak out, they would still be wearing their harness.
Well they are not wearing their helmets…
Helmets are more useful during the climbing phase, when the person above you might dislodge small rocks.
Unnecessary bravery is identical to stupidity
Uhh what if you wake up in the middle of the night and have to poop?
Probably shit over the edge if you can’t hold it
“Those damm birds.”
- Guy looking at his car.
More like:
‘What the hell have those birds been eating‽’
taco bell
Lookout belooooooooow
They actually do this. There are some gross stories about it.
Omgod that’s terrible. So messed up to not bring a bucket
They are supposed to shit in small bags and take them with them and dispose them only when they are back to the ground. Of course nobody can control you, if you pop just down from the edge.
Absolutely the fuck no.
All the people in this thread acting like this is safe and reasonable. “It’s okay because they still are wearing their harnesses”. Okay… lol
proprioceptive input
You should read about it. It’s quite interesting but it doesn’t make this any less dangerous but it does make scenarios like this more interesting because the human brain and body are incredible. Not everyone has the best proprioceptive input.
I bet there are still a bunch of spiders up there.
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I’m sure the spiders have no problem fucking up there
I really want to do this one day.
I don’t think I’d be able to sleep. I toss and turn so much I doubt I’d be able to stay on the ledge.
I think you’d subconsciously stop doing that. You do get larger platforms that double as tents. But whatever you take up, you have to climb up with, so the simpler, the better. My concern would be getting cold.
Ah, I see it’s actually a ledge and not one of those wall bed things (<– the technical term for them)
one of those wall bed things
portaledge
They’re strapped and tied in if I recall
but y tho?
I’m a rock climber and it just seems really cool, also I’m sure it’s some cool multi pitch climbing involved
I always just want to know seeing this how many have died hotelling cliffside.
Probably not many it’s pretty safe if you’re tied in.
Workplace safety harnesses are very different from climbing harnesses
Does a climbing harness provide more support if you are suspended in it? Or less?
I would say less. But you can spend hours sitting in it if need be. It’s not always comfy but it’s doable.
Totally different type of harness. Not applicable at all.
OK, this is a workplace safety notice so of course it’s focused on a work harness. Is a climbing harness more extensive? Does it offer more support if you end up suspended in it?
If not then the risk of suspension trauma is higher than in a work harness.
Holy shit you know absolutely nothing. I’ve been rock climbing for more than a decade. You can sit in a climbing harness for hours and hours. It’s not the most comfortable thing. But I’ve spent multiple hours sitting in harness’s countless times in my life. I can’t believe I’m even having this conversation with someone who knows absolutely nothing about what they are talking about.
For the sake of this photo they are tied into ropes coming up from below but they also have an anchor point above in the background and most likely a point directly on the ledge they are on. They will be tied into very short dynamic ropes for the majority of their time up there making it very difficult to fall more than a couple feet.
Well, I’d say it is something to expect: someone without experience is trying to understand, most likely in good faith. If anything, thank you for sharing your experience, I’d say it wasn’t necessary to rant this much but at least you did give an educational reply, thank you for that
Climbing harnesses are usually sitting harnesses that are more padded around the legs and back than work harnesses are.
The bigger thing, though, is that suspension trauma typically happens when you’re purely hanging. The amount of time you can hang in a void in a work harness is way, way shorter than the amount of time you can bounce off a wall in a work harness, particularly if you’re able to support much of your weight with your feet.
For climbers, the main worry would be hanging around if you’re somehow incapacitated from a heart attack or having been knocked out somehow, because workers are a lot more likely to be suspended over a void than climbers.
That’s like arguing a condom is less effective at preventing pregnancy than a trash bag, because the condom isn’t as big.
No, not really… the suspension trauma happens because the harness straps squeeze your arteries shut, blocking the bloodflow and causing stagnation. If the harness has fewer and/or thinner support straps then you will have the same body weight spread across fewer/smaller points, increasing the pressure and making the problem worse. Blood becomes hypoxic really quickly if it can’t move.
I’ve given safety awareness training and first aid response training on this topic (for work, not for recreation).
Yeah, but would you do it IF YOU COULDN’T TELL ANYBODY?
In the words of dead Descartes: “I think not.”
I know climbers who would absolutely do this and tell no one. Adrenaline can be its own reward.
Absolutely. And I aspire to that. Climbing rocks (pun intended)
I wanna know who took the picture, though. Someone is on that same vertical wall wielding a camera?
It could be a drone.
