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      Yep, there needs to be real consequences. In addition, no member of that board or executive team should be able to act in those positions in any company for like 5 yrs.

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      Honestly, I don’t think the company needs to be dissolved, but I think that accountability for the law should exist at director level and up. For a company the size of Amazon, that’s probably around 100 people that should face the consequences - and that’s only the retail org.

      The best description of Amazon is that it is a management company. It’s not a retailer, or a tech company. It’s output is its management process, and it’s this that it uses to build products in different markets.

      So, remove the source of those processes. Let people move up to higher roles, and let someone not breaking the law take the senior positions.

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      I don’t really see any other company building massive warehouses that employs millions of underserved people and providing them with decent paying jobs with good benefits. I don’t think 1.6million Americans should be unemployed because of shady actions of the execs.

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          It wasn’t necessarily Amazon that killed of the competition, it’s the tech behind Amazon (e-commerce) that killed retail stores. Just like UBER demolished the taxi industry, just like cars replaced horse carriages, and just like AI’s about to make knowledge workers completely obsolete. Amazon still has a great deal of competition from Walmart, Target, and lots of retailers.

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        People are still fling to buy shit. Maybe they have to do it locally instead? Probably some other company would step up to replace their monopoly. It’s only be an improvement.

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          So we should just make almost 2 million Americans unemployed because some execs shredded some papers. I don’t know if you know anything about retail work, but they pay less than Amazon does, very few actually pay over $15 an hour, Walmart starts you out at $12 an hour.

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            If Amazon were broken up it’d create more jobs. Sure, they may pay less, but Amazon has centralized a lot of work to increase efficiency.

            We shouldn’t break them up just because they shredded some papers. There are many more reasons than that.

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        It’s a myth that corporations are job creators. Their very premise is that they can do the same job for less because they have fewer labor costs.

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        I don’t think forcing people to work in inhumane conditions while paying them close to nothing, so that they still need to use food stamps, counts as employing. It sounds more like exploiting the most vulnerable people, which have no other employment option, because big monopolies like Amazon killed all the competition

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          No one’s forced to work at Amazon. For unskilled uneducated Americans $16 an hour is higher than what you can make in retail or fast food, which are some of the only options left especially for Americans in the rust belt. It’s not monopolies that killed jobs that used to provide livable wages like manufacturing it’s globalization. I’m not mad at your ignorance because I didn’t realize how bad parts of America were until I moved to the rust belt. If you want to blame anyone for the lack of quality employment for undedicated Americans blame the politicians and greedy companies that let high paying jobs go overseas to China and Mexico.

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    of course they did, the penalty for getting caught destroying evidence is far, far less than the penalty for the price fixing they’re accused of. the law is designed to incentivize them to do this.

    we could make it so that the penalty for destroying evidence in a court case once its been subpoenaed is twice the penalty of the original case, but we don’t. we could make CEOs responsible for the actions of their employees (after all, they’re quick to claim responsibility for the actions of their employees when those actions generate money), but we don’t.

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      It’s not going to stop until we start holding executives physically responsible for their crimes in disfiguring ways. “Why is the right half of your face missing, Bob?” “Insider trading” he writes on an index card because he’s been debarked.

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    I will only be surprised if someone actually ends up going to prison. More likely, the company will just get hit with a fine that’s just the cost of doing business.

    Although Romney said, “Corporations are people too, my friend” you can’t throw Amazon in jail.

    Closest they can do is a forced break up. A “Ma Bell” so to speak 🔔

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    Seems like that would be illegal and they should be on trial. I wonder if I went into Amazon and started to destroy a PC or two would I be held accountable?